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Curry Chat => Lets Talk Curry => Topic started by: George on May 04, 2010, 06:21 PM
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The Chicken Tikka Masala is quite good for a supermarket curry and, for my taste, the red and green Thai curries are especially good. A bargain for GBP1.99 a pack, let alone GBP1.49 each, for a period from 6 May.
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Chilled or frozen please.
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This is so wrong! :-X
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Chilled or frozen please.
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These are the chilled ones which, in my opinion, taste better than the frozen versions, in similar packaging.
Axe - what's wrong?
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Axe, the reason I ask is to understand what other members find agreeable. JM rates there sausage. (Keep it clean it's a family show).
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Axe, the reason I ask is to understand what other members find agreeable.
Yes, that's why I mentioned it. I don't work for them or anything. Like the Morrisons Saag Masala which I rate so highly, I think the chilled Morrisons curries might be made by Noon Products, who also make similar dishes for M&S and many others, but sold at far higher prices. For anyone who sometimes needs or wants to grab a quick meal, these Lidl curries are a bargain.
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Each to his own I guess but I stopped buying supermarket made meals long ago, especially the curries. I'm not going to say they are disgusting as clearly people do enjoy them, but they simply don't do anything for me. Perhaps I just haven't tried the right one but i'm no hurry to find it.
I just find it bizarre that on this forum especially, people would opt to buy a supermarket curry when there are a multitude of very good recipes on here. You can always make a little extra and freeze it in a typical take-away foil tray. Its just as easy to re-heat and tastes a damn site better.
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JM rates there sausage. (Keep it clean it's a family show).
You'd better hope Domi doesn't show up then! ;)
But as far as LIDL sausages go they do a whole range of cold sausages and I find them all very agreeable, especially the smoked ones.
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I am led to believe that both Morrisons and Asda curries on the chill counter are made by Mumtaz of Bradford.... a fine establishment with a thoroughly hygenic factory in its rear that efflux fresh daily produce. Said effluviant is available monthly on special offer at Asda for one pond coin per tray. It is jolly tasty too.
And after such a glowing report, and on such an influencial micromarketing format as this, I expect freebies forever. Unless the owner reads it and gets out the dictionary - but he is too busy adding a new diamond to his M5 probably. (Is it libel or slander to have a go on the internet?).
LIDL is good.
Long live homemade
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He drives a M5, no wonder you think it's no good michealpratt, can you elaberate please.
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I'm with Axe on this.
This site gives you everything you need to make curries quickly and cheaply, and in good quantity. Whenever you make a preparation ingredient (G+G, rice, base etc) you always make some extra. Then making the final curry is extremely quick and costs next to nothing. There's just no point in these, what we can do at home is better.
Having said that, I was rather partial to Iceland Beef Madras, just ?1.50 ;)
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Don't forget there Chicken biriani for a pound!
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All you've got to do now is write some quantities besides the list of ingredients, together with a method (e.g. whack into microwave), and you've posted your first curry recipe George! :P
Congratulations! ;D
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I just find it bizarre that on this forum especially, people would opt to buy a supermarket curry when there are a multitude of very good recipes on here. You can always make a little extra and freeze it in a typical take-away foil tray. Its just as easy to re-heat and tastes a damn site better.
I think "bizarre" is understating the case, somewhat, Axe :-\
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Where is this website going? Curries from Lidl and Iceland?
What has happened to all experimenting and coming up with new and existing BIR Curries? rejuvenating old curries? a twist on existing curries?
I stopped contributing for quite a while because of this, but I think this website needs some more input on actually cooking curries rather than those we buy ready made from supermarkets, whether it is a bargain for a pound or ?1.50 or not........
Come on guys we can all do better than that and with far better results.......
I am still in Florida, but today actually made Cory Anders Base Sauce to a degree but somewhat modified.........
On Saturday I bought half a leg of lamb had it de-boned and butterflied and made Lamb Tikka, which I marinated for 24 hours and then cooked in a friends oven on Sunday.
Today I made a new dish for me, which was Lamb Tikka Bhuna (HOT) and I mean hot!!! I used fresh Habinaro Chillies and the base sauce I made. It was unbelievable and I will posting the recipe on here within the next couple of days along with pictures.......
My American friends were knocked out with this and had not tasted "BIR" quality like this before anywhere in the USA.......
I truly believe that this website has a lot to offer, but we need to concentrate more on cooking our own rather than demonstrating what we bought at our local supermarket.......
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Sorry guys but I find 99% of these prepared meals absolute shite! the quality of the meat is of the lowest standard and they all have a vile coconutty taste that makes me want to heave.
This thread seems to be polarising our little curry community and Im gobsmacked that ANYONE who spends their time trying to replicate a bir style curry could think any differently.
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Today is my first day off for a while so was planning to make a base, CK tikka massalla for the Mrs & CA Vindaloo for me with Peterandjens pilau rice. Also going to try making the IG Onion Bhaji by Axe for the first time. Might not bother, do Lidl do Onion Bhajis?
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Sorry guys but I find 99% of these prepared meals absolute shite! the quality of the meat is of the lowest standard and they all have a vile coconutty taste that makes me want to heave.
I feel that the quality of some BIRs has sunk so low, that many of the chilled food supermarket curries actually taste better these days! Most of them are nothing special but at least two stand out for me:
- LIDL red or green Thai curries
- Morrisons Saag Masala
If I could make dishes as tasty as those, I'd be well pleased.
I'm being very specific. For example, I tried LIDL's samosas and didn't rate them at all. The tarka dal was edible but not good enough to recommend here. I wouldn't have high expectations for supermarket onion bhajis or naan bread, either.
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Also going to try making the IG Onion Bhaji by Axe for the first time.
fantastic, let us know how you get on. Just incase, there is a breakdown of the recipe at the end of the first post in the topic.
If I could make dishes as tasty as those, I'd be well pleased.
George, are you serious? I was thinking about the Morrisons Chicken Saag as per your request for members to gauge themselves. But if you are honestly saying you have never cooked a better dish, I already have my measure, i'm afraid.
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George, are you serious? I was thinking about the Morrisons Chicken Saag as per your request for members to gauge themselves. But if you are honestly saying you have never cooked a better dish, I already have my measure, i'm afraid.
To clarify, I've never tried to make a Thai red or green curry, or a Saag anything curry but I still think I'd be hard pushed to make anything to match those specific dishes, although I could be wrong. On the few occasions when I've had Thai curries in a Thai restaurant, I'm not sure they're better than the Lidl ones, although I can't be certain, because i haven't been to a Thai restaurant for ages. If you're saying your cooking knocks spots off anything from a supermarket, did you sign up for my 'come dine' idea?
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If you're saying your cooking knocks spots off anything from a supermarket, did you sign up for my 'come dine' idea?
Are you thinking of serving up a few supermarket curries then George? Mmmmmmmm, I bet Axe can't wait.......
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I've never really had a good curry from a supermarket, and I've tried many although not recently.
From what I've learned mostly from this forum, I can beat a supermarket curry any day, at least to my tastebuds.
Supermarket curries usually use cheap meat and resort to cheap tricks like using cornflour to thicken the sauce, I guess because it is cheaper than onions.
Paul.
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I dont see there is any harm in discussing things like this. It's in the Curry Chat section, if you don't want to read it then don't. I agree we should continue our group mission of attaining curry perfection - and behind the scenes most of us are - but a bit of lighthearted chat about other stuff is fine in my opinion.
p.s. Waitrose used to do a genuinely nice Chicken Biryani. I would buy at least one a week to microwave at work for my lunch with some of those poor ready to eat poppadums.
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George, I wouldn't say my cooking 'knock spots off' supermarket meals, but it is better. I'm not knocking you for liking this type of thing, i'm just very surprised to learn that as a longer serving member, you still feel your cooking is not as good as a supermarket meal.
I have some links to some great Indian Recipe sites if your interested. They are traditional Indian recipes as opposed to BIR, but they do have some really great recipes. I can PM them to you if you like.
Thai Curry is not something that I do alot of i'm afraid but I friend of mine who enjoys cooking says it's a doddle. He's makes his own paste's from recipe's he gathered from the internet. Again, I can get the links for you if you want them. I had a stab at the TCA Fish Cakes the other day, I posted pics, they were good too.
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Sure there's no harm in discussing it - I was discussing it!
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George, I wouldn't say my cooking 'knock spots off' supermarket meals, but it is better. I'm not knocking you for liking this type of thing, i'm just very surprised to learn that as a longer serving member, you still feel your cooking is not as good as a supermarket meal.
You're right. The supermarket curries (but only selected ones, like the two I mentioned) meet a convenience need for me. That's all. Would I serve up bought in dishes if I had people round for dinner? No way, although I know or suspect many people do. Another example is that I was treated to a meal in a gastro pub recently and the desserts were ?4.25. I had apple and blackberry pie, said to be home made and it was awful - devoid of flavour. Yesterday, I bought an 'Aunt Bessies' apple and blackberry pie for ?1.49 from LIDL and it was delicious. It was about 4x more pie too.
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Well ive tried supermarket frozen curries....They truely are disgusting (IMO) (bland too much salt and very little in the way of what you call chicken or meat) and that is not me going over the top.
I cook my own chinese, thai and indian.
I wouldnt ever use frozen or even jar made curries again because of two words.
Mass Produced.
Cooking your own curries from recpies will always be better then anything from a supermarket.
I will stick my neck and say by far i can and have cooked way better then anything in a supermarket and that is not because im a big head.
Its because i cook with everything fresh.
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I have to say that I make almost everything fresh at home...I've never had anything readymade from a supermarket that I couldn't do better at home...I have had some readymade stuff when need be but in those times I'm afraid I have to have Sainsbury's taste the difference - for me, you get what you pay for...but I'm lucky enough to have plenty of local farms to call on (better quality and cheaper than most supermarkets too)...I'd never buy meat from a supermarket unless I really, really have to. I like my meat well hung and not pumped full of water. Basically I use supermarkets for the things I can't get locally.
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I'm afraid I have to have Sainsbury's taste the difference - for me, you get what you pay for...
The only thing I tried in this range Domi was their quiche lorraine and it was the worst supermarket quiche I'd ever had. It put me off trying anything else.
Sainsbury's basics yoghurt however...yummy!
I like my meat well hung and not pumped full of water
I'm sure you're Finbarr Saunders incarnate! ;D
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Well ive tried supermarket frozen curries....They truely are disgusting
But that's not what this thread is about or, at least started off on. The products I recommended are chilled food (not frozen) and there's quite a difference.
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well i don't have anything against people buying ready meal curries but its not for me i just think they are bland to be honest i dint really buy anything ready made anymore i make it myself i.e. pizza, chili con carne ,spag bol i just find it better knowing whats in my food the amount of salt and colouring and preservatives etc.
But the thing that gets me most is when people say i cooked a curry last night and they take a jar of sauce and just add meat now that's not cooking is it? ::)
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But the thing that gets me most is when people say i cooked a curry last night and they take a jar of sauce and just add meat now that's not cooking is it? ::)
True, and I bet there's loads of members who would scoff at getting a pre prepared supermarket meal (curry) and yet have no problem about dolloping loads of Pataks pastes into their curries.
It amounts to the same thing to me!
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I've tried quite a few of the bottled curry sauces (various brands) and I haven't yet found one I like enough to buy again. For me, chilled food is the only delivery method which seems to present reasonable flavours.
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well pastes are made up of spice mixes! supermarket curries are made up of.........Well lots of stuff you wouldnt want in a curry put it this way.
So each to their own i guess. ;D
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your right santa about pataks funny thing is i had to go and cut a pizza and burger restraunt electric off the other day and you should have seen the amount of catering size jars of pataks they had in there i had a little smile to myself :P
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Well as i said each to their own. A lot would say the pastes can be usefull too.
Thats if they are used in the right way. ::)
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I've tried quite a few of the bottled curry sauces (various brands) and I haven't yet found one I like enough to buy again.
I'm not ashamed (well maybe a bit) to admit that I still occasionally have legs of chicken cooked in Pataks vindaloo sauce with chips and rice. It's the way my mum used to make it for me and I still like it now and again. I put loads of vinegar on the chips and I just love the mix of chicken curry, chips, and rice all in one mouthful...mmmmmm Pataks! :D
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...i had to go and cut a pizza and burger restraunt electric off the other day and you should have seen the amount of catering size jars of pataks they had in there...
Presumably they also made curries too? Or were those pastes used on the burgers and pizzas?! :o
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'Ere SS...there's a pizza place not far from us that does a CTM pizza and it's the tastiest CTM I've ever had but they're not a curry shop and they don't sell the sauce on it's todd and they don't do any other curry dish either mainly I think because they've opened right next door to a curry house :( If I can't make a curry we order a pizza rather than a curry takeout....
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Ah yes Domi, I never thought of that. I have seen those new fangled CTM pizzas but could never bring myself to try it, it seemed like sacrelege somehow.
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CTM Pizza? What ever next.
I once knew a chap that had his chips with vinegar, brown sauce, mayonnaise and gravy! He swore by it, I asked him if he was pregnant! ;D
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supermarket curries are made up of.........Well lots of stuff you wouldnt want in a curry put it this way. So each to their own i guess. ;D
I disagree. Here's the ingredients list for another tasty LIDL curry - their Chicken Tikka Masala. I think Mr Noon would be most put out by your accusation. What is there in this list of ingredients to cause any concern? They also state that no colours or additives are used. Again, for GBP1.49, an absolute bargain.
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CTM Pizza? What ever next.
I once knew a chap that had his chips with vinegar, brown sauce, mayonnaise and gravy!
Seems like he didn't know whether he was from up North, down South, or from Belgium! Crazy fella.
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I said each to their own.
It doesnt state the amount of salt or sugar. (which in the news last week said was way over the levels we should be eating)
So again i wouldnt touch supermarket curries.
supermarket curries are made up of.........Well lots of stuff you wouldnt want in a curry put it this way. So each to their own i guess. ;D
I disagree. Here's the ingredients list for another tasty LIDL curry - their Chicken Tikka Masala. I think Mr Noon would be most put out by your accusation. What is there in this list of ingredients to cause any concern? They also state that no colours or additives are used. Again, for GBP1.49, an absolute bargain.
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The ingredients list is greatest to smallest is it not? Salt does seem to be quite plentiful in both lists.
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The ingredients list is greatest to smallest is it not? Salt does seem to be quite plentiful in both lists.
Yes, the ingredients list is from largest to smallest. On another section of the pack they state salt for the entire 450g pack as 1.6g (sodium 0.63g). Sure, you could make home cooked food with less salt but I expect BIR food has more salt - after all they don't need to declare it. And anyone who is trying to emulate BIR food will need to put in lots of salt too. For anyone who doesn't, perhaps that's one reason for the taste shortfall.
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Your spot on there. That has been sitting in the back of my mind whilst reading the comments about salt content.
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Again each to their own.
I never put that much salt in my base and dont put any when making the curries.
I guess i like to use the spices more so bigger flavour.
With rules changing the way salt is put into food you will see salt being used less in the future.
Plus i keep saying IMO supermarket curries are bland and they are mass produced.
Anyway moving on ::)
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As far as I'm concerned, this forum is about replicating BIR curries, not about what tasty curries you can buy at the supermarket. If you're going to do that, why bother at all? Just go to your favourite local BIR and buy one. For the less ambitious (and penny pinching) amongst us, I suppose we can always go to Morrisons or Lidl....
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I was starting to wonder like. ;D
I must admit a strange topic in a curry recpie forum.
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I agree String28
But each to their own, hey, as you rightly say :P
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That will be my new signature!!! "Each To Their Own"
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Trust me, String28, I've seen much worse (and, again, I don't necessarily mean my own ;))
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As far as I'm concerned, this forum is about replicating BIR curries, not about what tasty curries you can buy at the supermarket. If you're going to do that, why bother at all? Just go to your favourite local BIR and buy one. For the less ambitious (and penny pinching) amongst us, I suppose we can always go to Morrisons or Lidl....
There's nothing wrong with discussing pre-made curries IMO as I'm sure quite a few members will buy the supermarket made at some point. It has received 6 pages of posts after all, if you don't wish to discuss certain topics, why not stay out of them instead of constantly trying to have a go at certain members you have a grudge against? Not trying to stifle debate and discussion again are you, CA?
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There's nothing wrong with discussing pre-made curries IMO as I'm sure quite a few members will buy the supermarket made at some point. It has received 6 pages of posts after all, if you don't wish to discuss certain topics, why not stay out of them instead of constantly trying to have a go at certain members you have a grudge against? Not trying to stifle debate and discussion again are you, CA?
You're entitled to your opinion Domi. Most of the six pages appear to to me to be in bewilderment as to why a long standing member would be advocating such a thing as supermarket curries on this forum :-\
Surely I'm entitled to my opinion every bit as much as you Domi? Or are you trying to "stifle debate"? Perhaps it's OK as long as they agree with you, SS and George then is it? :-\
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This got me thinking, how can a business put pre cooked rice into a container. Then pre cooked chicken with a pre made sauce plus additions and serve it up as freshly prepared. Well hey that's what you call a take away.
The chilled food process is the next step on.
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There's nothing wrong with discussing pre-made curries IMO as I'm sure quite a few members will buy the supermarket made at some point. It has received 6 pages of posts after all, if you don't wish to discuss certain topics, why not stay out of them instead of constantly trying to have a go at certain members you have a grudge against? Not trying to stifle debate and discussion again are you, CA?
You're entitled to your opinion Domi. Most of the six pages appear to to me to be in bewilderment as to why a long standing member would be advocating such a thing as supermarket curries on this forum :-\
Surely I'm entitled to my opinion every bit as much as you Domi? Or are you trying to "stifle debate"? Perhaps it's OK as long as they agree with you, SS and George then is it? :-\
Not at all, CA...it's just that the majority of your posts lately are nothing but insult and seldom have anything to do with any kind of debate or discussion, they're merely picking fights and bullying other members. In fact I can't find one of your posts which is not in some way having a dig at someone :/ you accuse others of having nothing but negative comments, yet you persist in your childish behaviour despite it being obvious that you're being ignored (in this respect I refer to your posts and comments made to George). Yes others may have questioned George's thread topic, but they certainly haven't lowered themselves to your standards and started insulting anyone. What is the need for it, exactly? or rather, what pleasure is it giving you?
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commis for a start its nothing like a take away.
you dont get mass production in a take away its cooked there and then when you want it.
Also the cooking methods are not the same so again nothing like a take away or bir.
I mean are any of you gonna take the recipe off the supermarket curry and cook it yourself? Or even cook in the way that all mass produced food is cooked?
I guess each to their own.
Think weve lost what the forum is about IMO
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That may be true, string, but it is a discussion about curries and since members do apparently still buy supermarket curries/sides/nans etc it's surely not too far of a stretch to discuss the merits/demerits of supermarket curries, surely? I don't buy them personally but I don't mind others discussing it. I suppose it could also be handy to know which supermarket curries are decent enough in desperate times too, though personally I'd rather have a takeaway or do without a curry altogether in those instances lol.
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I keep saying Domi each to their own but the problem is when people are trying to put a supermarket curry in the same breath with ta or bir!
Now im sure a lot of the posts on this topic are just tongue in cheek to get at one of the member on here.
All the years ive looked at the forum and ive never seen a post like this before in the talk curry thread.
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Also the cooking methods are not the same so again nothing like a take away or bir.
I mean are any of you gonna take the recipe off the supermarket curry and cook it yourself? Or even cook in the way that all mass produced food is cooked?
The debate over supermarket curries aside, are you seriously suggesting that BIR curries aren't mass produced?! :o
And actually, if you did take the recipe from a mass produced supermarket curry and made it BIR style, I think you'd find yourself with a very decent curry too.
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are you seriously suggesting that BIR curries aren't mass produced?!
Come on SS, you and I (and most others) know that they are (apart from some preprepared ingredients) produced one (or two) at a time....DEFINITELY NOT MASS PRODUCED (in the same manner as supermarket curries are)!
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Thats in your opinion Secret Santa
IMO most people wouldnt agree with you.
Also with the same stuff they cook in a supermarket how would it taste good?
I mean its the same ingredients what would change the flavour you should elaborate for us Secret Santa.
;D ::)
Also the cooking methods are not the same so again nothing like a take away or bir.
I mean are any of you gonna take the recipe off the supermarket curry and cook it yourself? Or even cook in the way that all mass produced food is cooked?
The debate over supermarket curries aside, are you seriously suggesting that BIR curries aren't mass produced?! :o
And actually, if you did take the recipe from a mass produced supermarket curry and made it BIR style, I think you'd find yourself with a very decent curry too.
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I mean its the same ingredients what would change the flavour you should elaborate for us Secret Santa.
I thought I already had elaborated string28. I said cook it BIR style. That should be elaboration enough if you've cooked any of the curries on the forum! ;)
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I thought I already had elaborated string28. I said cook it BIR style. That should be elaboration enough if you've cooked any of the curries on the forum! ;)
Oh, BANG goes another happy cr0 member then SS! :-\
Nicely elaborated mate, I take my hat off to you! ::)
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LMAO here goes!!!!!
Yep you cook it in the bir style but again its the same INGREDIENTS what will change the flavor?
What because you cooked it in an bir style its gonna change it by magic is that what your suggesting?
Oh ive cooked many thing from the forum BIR & TA RECPIES.
I mean its the same ingredients what would change the flavour you should elaborate for us Secret Santa.
I thought I already had elaborated string28. I said cook it BIR style. That should be elaboration enough if you've cooked any of the curries on the forum! ;)
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I`m finding this amusing to tell you the truth! ;D
I thought I already had elaborated string28. I said cook it BIR style. That should be elaboration enough if you've cooked any of the curries on the forum! ;)
Oh, BANG goes another happy cr0 member then SS! :-\
Nicely elaborated mate, I take my hat off to you! ::)
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I'm relieved to hear that String, I lost mine, quite some time ago, I'm afraid :P
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I keep saying Domi each to their own but the problem is when people are trying to put a supermarket curry in the same breath with ta or bir!
Now im sure a lot of the posts on this topic are just tongue in cheek to get at one of the member on here.
All the years ive looked at the forum and ive never seen a post like this before in the talk curry thread.
LOL! I get what you're saying, string but in a way I'm surprised that supermarket curries haven't been discussed at some point. There are bound to be some members who have eaten them regularly though after joining this forum I must admit I'd have to wonder why they still would :P Having said that, I feel the same about supermarket lasagnes, quiches, chillis etc too everything tastes better made at home fresh but if everyone made everything at home the supermarkets wouldn't bother stocking them, would they? Someone's buying this stuff lol and I know it's not me :P
It'd be interesting to know how many members buy other Indian dishes from the supermarkets/other outlets if not curries, then naans, rice, chapattis, samosas, popadoms etc which may come in handy for those who don't/can't/aren't inclined make their own fresh at home....and this is the forum to discuss it ;)
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LMAO here goes!!!!!
What because you cooked it in an bir style its gonna change it by magic is that what your suggesting?
Certainly, although there's no magic involved. And to be honest I fail to see what there is to LMAO about. Care to elaborate? :)
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I fail to see what there is to LMAO about. Care to elaborate? :)
YOU, I feel, SS lmao! ;D
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Yes i will elaborate for you Secret Santa when you do the same ;D
LMAO here goes!!!!!
What because you cooked it in an bir style its gonna change it by magic is that what your suggesting?
Certainly, although there's no magic involved. And to be honest I fail to see what there is to LMAO about. Care to elaborate? :)
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The thing is, if we food nazis haven't actually had a supermarket curry for a number of years, we can hardly comment on their taste or flavour now, can we? It's the same as someone talking about BIR curries and arguing points when they haven't been in the country for ten years...they have no idea of what BIR is like NOW as they only know what they were like THEN and there's been a heckuva lot of changes to BIR ::)
Perhaps there's been some major improvements to S/M curries that we wouldn't know about lol maybe we've been missing something? :-\
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I agree we should have a topic on this im just saying IMO i dont think curries from a supermarket are that nice.
Your right Domi its good to discuss topics like this.
I think sometimes its gets lost in all the personal fueds that are going on.
I keep saying Domi each to their own but the problem is when people are trying to put a supermarket curry in the same breath with ta or bir!
Now im sure a lot of the posts on this topic are just tongue in cheek to get at one of the member on here.
All the years ive looked at the forum and ive never seen a post like this before in the talk curry thread.
LOL! I get what you're saying, string but in a way I'm surprised that supermarket curries haven't been discussed at some point. There are bound to be some members who have eaten them regularly though after joining this forum I must admit I'd have to wonder why they still would :P Having said that, I feel the same about supermarket lasagnes, quiches, chillis etc too everything tastes better made at home fresh but if everyone made everything at home the supermarkets wouldn't bother stocking them, would they? Someone's buying this stuff lol and I know it's not me :P
It'd be interesting to know how many members buy other Indian dishes from the supermarkets/other outlets if not curries, then naans, rice, chapattis, samosas, popadoms etc which may come in handy for those who don't/can't/aren't inclined make their own fresh at home....and this is the forum to discuss it ;)
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I think if you want supermarket curry you get what you pay for. ?1.49
so packing them work to produce them and then the trucks delivering them.
Thats tells you what you are eating simple really.
The thing is, if we food nazis haven't actually had a supermarket curry for a number of years, we can hardly comment on their taste or flavour now, can we? It's the same as someone talking about BIR curries and arguing points when they haven't been in the country for ten years...they have no idea of what BIR is like NOW as they only know what they were like THEN and there's been a heckuva lot of changes to BIR ::)
Perhaps there's been some major improvements to S/M curries that we wouldn't know about lol maybe we've been missing something? :-\
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LMAO here goes!!!!!
Yep you cook it in the bir style but again its the same INGREDIENTS what will change the flavor?
What because you cooked it in an bir style its gonna change it by magic is that what your suggesting?
Oh ive cooked many thing from the forum BIR & TA RECPIES.
I mean its the same ingredients what would change the flavour you should elaborate for us Secret Santa.
Sorry, string, not meaning to be pedantic but of course the flavour would change if you used the same ingredients, scaled down to make a single portion of whichever dish and made it fresh a la BIR stylie and ate it as soon as it was prepared, to claim otherwise is wrong IMO and I would expect any member of long standing to know as much.
We've all tasted fresh made curries the day after and noted the difference in flavour. Even home made chillis, spag bols and stews taste different the day after......would different cooking technique alter the final flavour? absolutely yes it would if any of the myriad of posts about technique are to be believed on this board, simply frying an onion for a couple of minutes greatly alters the taste as opposed to caremelising onions makes a huge difference! To claim anything other is wrong... :/
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I think if you want supermarket curry you get what you pay for. ?1.49
so packing them work to produce them and then the trucks delivering them.
Thats tells you what you are eating simple really.
I agree, it is simple, but apparently you haven't heard of economy of scale. That 1.49 is like you or me having 15 quid in our pocket to make a curry with. And yes it still comes out sub standard compared to a good BIR, but that's because it's not cooked BIR style. Seriously, I thought that would be obvious! ???
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Well let me say first of all the INGREDIENTS used in a super market will be the low end of quality products reason why they charge so cheap.
Now what your saying is use the ingredients also from bir?
So changing the flavor of the curries.
It be like me taking a frozen pizza made in a supermarket and doing the same thing and then thinking it would be like the real thing just because i cooked it in a pizza oven.
You can change the ingredients but then its no longer a supermarket curry is it. Simples
LMAO here goes!!!!!
Yep you cook it in the bir style but again its the same INGREDIENTS what will change the flavor?
What because you cooked it in an bir style its gonna change it by magic is that what your suggesting?
Oh ive cooked many thing from the forum BIR & TA RECPIES.
I mean its the same ingredients what would change the flavour you should elaborate for us Secret Santa.
Sorry, string, not meaning to be pedantic but of course the flavour would change if you used the same ingredients, scaled down to make a single portion of whichever dish and made it fresh a la BIR stylie and ate it as soon as it was prepared, to claim otherwise is wrong IMO and I would expect any member of long standing to know as much.
We've all tasted fresh made curries the day after and noted the difference in flavour. Even home made chillis, spag bols and stews taste different the day after......would different cooking technique alter the final flavour? absolutely yes it would if any of the myriad of posts about technique are to be believed on this board, simply frying an onion for a couple of minutes greatly alters the taste as opposed to caremelising onions makes a huge difference! To claim anything other is wrong... :/
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Yeah it be like me having 15 in my pocket then paying for a curry thats been made in one place shipped from the other side of the uk or even another country.
So i guess my 15 wouldnt get me much quality would it?
I think if you want supermarket curry you get what you pay for. ?1.49
so packing them work to produce them and then the trucks delivering them.
Thats tells you what you are eating simple really.
I agree, it is simple, but apparently you haven't heard of economy of scale. That 1.49 is like you or me having 15 quid in our pocket to make a curry with. And yes it still comes out sub standard compared to a good BIR, but that's because it's not cooked BIR style. Seriously, I thought that would be obvious! ???
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but supermarket curries list turmeric, coriander, garam masala etc the same as BIR curries, string...which cost pence a packet....and having checked out some of the prices, ?1.49 is a gross underestimation...BIRs also use cheap ingredients, string if you think they use all the most expensive ingredients you're kidding yourself.
If you were to make a supermarket frozen pizza fresh at home using the same ingredients, I'd be willing to bet that a freshly made pizza base would taste different even if made with the same ingredients, the tomato sauce would taste different freshly made and used immediately....would it taste better home-made? I'd bet that it would....cheap ingredients or no... ::)
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Now what your saying is use the ingredients also from bir?...
You can change the ingredients but then its no longer a supermarket curry is it. Simples
I don't think you read it right string28.
Domi said but of course the flavour would change if you used the same ingredients, scaled down to make a single portion of whichever dish and made it fresh a la BIR stylie
See...SAME ingredients...just made BIR style. Exactly what I was saying.
I genuinely don't know whether you're trying to wind us up or that you just don't realise that there's a difference between BIR cooking and the cooking methods used in mass production? ???
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Thank you Domi i knew we would get there in the end
So in other words we really dont need the supermarket we can do it ourselfs better.
I think the penny just dropped ::)
Now lets hope a few more people start cooking the curries at home and we get to find out how to do BIR style curries. ;D
but supermarket curries list turmeric, coriander, garam masala etc the same as BIR curries, string...which cost pence a packet....and having checked out some of the prices, ?1.49 is a gross underestimation...BIRs also use cheap ingredients, string if you think they use all the most expensive ingredients you're kidding yourself.
If you were to make a supermarket frozen pizza fresh at home using the same ingredients, I'd be willing to bet that a freshly made pizza base would taste different even if made with the same ingredients, the tomato sauce would taste different freshly made and used immediately....would it taste better home-made? I'd bet that it would....cheap ingredients or no... ::)
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I did make the comment about me finding this amusing Secret Santa ;D
Now what your saying is use the ingredients also from bir?...
You can change the ingredients but then its no longer a supermarket curry is it. Simples
I don't think you read it right string28.
Domi said but of course the flavour would change if you used the same ingredients, scaled down to make a single portion of whichever dish and made it fresh a la BIR stylie
See...SAME ingredients...just made BIR style. Exactly what I was saying.
I genuinely don't know whether you're trying to wind us up or that you just don't realise that there's a difference between BIR cooking and the cooking methods used in mass production? ???
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Thank you Domi i knew we would get there in the end
So in other words we really dont need the supermarket we can do it ourselfs better.
I think the penny just dropped ::)
Now lets hope a few more people start cooking the curries at home and we get to find out how to do BIR style curries. ;D
but supermarket curries list turmeric, coriander, garam masala etc the same as BIR curries, string...which cost pence a packet....and having checked out some of the prices, ?1.49 is a gross underestimation...BIRs also use cheap ingredients, string if you think they use all the most expensive ingredients you're kidding yourself.
If you were to make a supermarket frozen pizza fresh at home using the same ingredients, I'd be willing to bet that a freshly made pizza base would taste different even if made with the same ingredients, the tomato sauce would taste different freshly made and used immediately....would it taste better home-made? I'd bet that it would....cheap ingredients or no... ::)
Yes, but it doesn't alter the fact that people still use supermarket products and are able to discuss the merits/demerits all the same lol I can make homemade ketchup but I'll still prefer to use Heinz :P
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Yes domi but you said it we can cook it better ourselfs so i think that says a lot about supermarket curries.
Thanks anyway for making the point im off to a new challenge now.
Thank you Domi i knew we would get there in the end
So in other words we really dont need the supermarket we can do it ourselfs better.
I think the penny just dropped ::)
Now lets hope a few more people start cooking the curries at home and we get to find out how to do BIR style curries. ;D
but supermarket curries list turmeric, coriander, garam masala etc the same as BIR curries, string...which cost pence a packet....and having checked out some of the prices, ?1.49 is a gross underestimation...BIRs also use cheap ingredients, string if you think they use all the most expensive ingredients you're kidding yourself.
If you were to make a supermarket frozen pizza fresh at home using the same ingredients, I'd be willing to bet that a freshly made pizza base would taste different even if made with the same ingredients, the tomato sauce would taste different freshly made and used immediately....would it taste better home-made? I'd bet that it would....cheap ingredients or no... ::)
Yes, but it doesn't alter the fact that people still use supermarket products and are able to discuss the merits/demerits all the same lol I can make homemade ketchup but I'll still prefer to use Heinz :P
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I can make homemade ketchup but I'll still prefer to use Heinz :P
Yup, there are some things you just can't improve upon!
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I did make the comment about me finding this amusing Secret Santa ;D
Ah good, a bit of levity never hurt anyone! ;)
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Hi George
You must be having one hell of a laugh at the controversy this simple post has caused- I find it fantastic well done.
Let's face it who wants to knock a home made curry after a few, maybe alot of beers if there is a quick and acceptale alternative to whack in the microwave, we all know the recipes on the site produce excellent fresh curries-
Mind you having seen some of the photos posted I think I'd prefer to buy at LIDL ;D
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Well i for one would say people who post the curries pics are people who make the forum.
You know why matt3333?
Because they took the time and effort to make the curries and post them.
To show other people on here so they can learn.
So i for one would like to thank everyone who posted pics, Videos, Recpies because without them we wouldnt be anywhere near making BIR
So matt3333 can i ask why did you join the forum?
Hi George
You must be having one hell of a laugh at the controversy this simple post has caused- I find it fantastic well done.
Let's face it who wants to knock a home made curry after a few, maybe alot of beers if there is a quick and acceptale alternative to whack in the microwave, we all know the recipes on the site produce excellent fresh curries-
Mind you having seen some of the photos posted I think I'd prefer to buy at LIDL ;D
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God this is getting circular!
Earlier I added a comment that many supermarket curries actually ARE BIRs. As I said the Mumtaz restaurant supplies Morrisons and ASDA I am sure.
And the mass production argument is a bit fallacious: if you are looking for a homemade version of a takeaway, the hardest thing is scaling down to a few portions a process designed to throw out a couple of hundred covers a night - and therein lies the issue.
Personally I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that if I want a restaurant style curry, I go to a restaurant. If I want to cook it myself I get homestyle curry. Not an issue really. And if I can't get to the takeaway I have a freezer full of BIR curries thanks to ASDA.
Incidentally I have a Goan Goddaughter. Having been there to visit many times not one single dish I have been served by my family out there has the slightest resemblance to anything you get in a BIR. It is still, however, delicious. (And usually too hot)
Mike
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Mike its the flavour everyone is on about when it comes to bir.
There is nothing like the flavours that you get when eating food from a bir.
The holy grail is to make BIR Flavour at home and we are nearly there.
God this is getting circular!
Earlier I added a comment that many supermarket curries actually ARE BIRs. As I said the Mumtaz restaurant supplies Morrisons and ASDA I am sure.
And the mass production argument is a bit fallacious: if you are looking for a homemade version of a takeaway, the hardest thing is scaling down to a few portions a process designed to throw out a couple of hundred covers a night - and therein lies the issue.
Personally I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that if I want a restaurant style curry, I go to a restaurant. If I want to cook it myself I get homestyle curry. Not an issue really. And if I can't get to the takeaway I have a freezer full of BIR curries thanks to ASDA.
Incidentally I have a Goan Goddaughter. Having been there to visit many times not one single dish I have been served by my family out there has the slightest resemblance to anything you get in a BIR. It is still, however, delicious. (And usually too hot)
Mike
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Well i for one would say people who post the curries pics are people who make the forum.
You know why matt3333?
Because they took the time and effort to make the curries and post them.
To show other people on here so they can learn.
So i for one would like to thank everyone who posted pics, Videos, Recpies because without them we wouldnt be anywhere near making BIR
So matt3333 can i ask why did you join the forum?
Merely my opinion on some photos, no need to add the aggressive tone string28, 'm sure we can all resort to that.
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Aggressive?????????
I asked you a simple question didnt see any aggression in that.
I mean in your opinion mocking some of the peoples pics is good?
Maybe think about peoples feeling before you post and insult people ;)
Well i for one would say people who post the curries pics are people who make the forum.
You know why matt3333?
Because they took the time and effort to make the curries and post them.
To show other people on here so they can learn.
So i for one would like to thank everyone who posted pics, Videos, Recpies because without them we wouldnt be anywhere near making BIR
So matt3333 can i ask why did you join the forum?
Merely my opinion on some photos, no need to add the aggressive tone string28, 'm sure we can all resort to that.
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You see its the additives in supermarket curries that make people aggressive and argumentative!
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Oh dear me, here we go again ;)
There are clearly some, very accomplished chefs on this site as the photos and posts demonstrate, however some not so- Is it polite to post negative comments(or positive advice) on a photo that someone has posted I'm not sure.
I'm not knocking anyone's efforts, the post is lighthearted within the current exchanges.
To all those who have been upset by my post, I apologise-
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;D Your right peterandjen need to get back to basics and make our own curries without all the added stuff. ;D
You see its the additives in supermarket curries that make people aggressive and argumentative!
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Good man.
To all those who have been upset by my post, I apologise-
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Yes domi but you said it we can cook it better ourselfs so i think that says a lot about supermarket curries.
Thanks anyway for making the point im off to a new challenge now.
Thank you Domi i knew we would get there in the end
So in other words we really dont need the supermarket we can do it ourselfs better.
I think the penny just dropped ::)
Now lets hope a few more people start cooking the curries at home and we get to find out how to do BIR style curries. ;D
but supermarket curries list turmeric, coriander, garam masala etc the same as BIR curries, string...which cost pence a packet....and having checked out some of the prices, ?1.49 is a gross underestimation...BIRs also use cheap ingredients, string if you think they use all the most expensive ingredients you're kidding yourself.
If you were to make a supermarket frozen pizza fresh at home using the same ingredients, I'd be willing to bet that a freshly made pizza base would taste different even if made with the same ingredients, the tomato sauce would taste different freshly made and used immediately....would it taste better home-made? I'd bet that it would....cheap ingredients or no... ::)
Yes, but it doesn't alter the fact that people still use supermarket products and are able to discuss the merits/demerits all the same lol I can make homemade ketchup but I'll still prefer to use Heinz :P
Aye but the thing is, string, you were also arguing that using the same ingredients that supermarkets use to mass produce food would still give the same results if made at home in a BIR style, which they wouldn't - which was the point I was arguing so how you can say you were making the same point, I don't know :P hehehe ;D
As to pictures of curries, I don't mind having a look but sadly I don't have the time nor the inclination to take a decent snap, I'm too busy wanting to dig into it! I by far prefer to read someone's opinion of a dish providing they've actually taken the time to cook it to spec (something not alot of members do) as I don't believe in mixing and matching base and curry recipes simply because the differences in recipes can make an altogether different curry.
I was talking to Razor about this just yesterday in fact as he's doing his own take on a base but worried about the colour (apologies Razor if it was a secret!) I don't really care what a curry looks like as long as it tastes right....and you can't judge a flavour from a picture....if I want to try someone's final curry recipe, I want to try it with their spice mix, their base and their ingredients to get a true taste of their dish.
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Domi Your right about the curry pictures and recipes and even videos.
I think its great how people post pics of the base and the curries gives others ideas just like razor.
I hope he does post pictures of the base be good to see how different it is.
Also i think taste is the main thing just because it doesnt look right doesnt mean it dont taste right.
Razor is showing what we learn on here we can take another level.
Get that bir taste.
Aye but the thing is, string, you were also arguing that using the same ingredients that supermarkets use to mass produce food would still give the same results if made at home in a BIR style, which they wouldn't - which was the point I was arguing so how you can say you were making the same point, I don't know :P hehehe ;D
As to pictures of curries, I don't mind having a look but sadly I don't have the time nor the inclination to take a decent snap, I'm too busy wanting to dig into it! I by far prefer to read someone's opinion of a dish providing they've actually taken the time to cook it to spec (something not alot of members do) as I don't believe in mixing and matching base and curry recipes simply because the differences in recipes can make an altogether different curry.
I was talking to Razor about this just yesterday in fact as he's doing his own take on a base but worried about the colour (apologies Razor if it was a secret!) I don't really care what a curry looks like as long as it tastes right....and you can't judge a flavour from a picture....if I want to try someone's final curry recipe, I want to try it with their spice mix, their base and their ingredients to get a true taste of their dish.
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I think if you want supermarket curry you get what you pay for. ?1.49
so packing them work to produce them and then the trucks delivering them.
Thats tells you what you are eating simple really.
Did you study basic economics at college or anywhere? It doesn't sound like it. These curries are made in the same factory as the ones sold by M&S for about GBP4. The quality is comparable. It's LIDL's business decision to sell them at a low, possibly loss-making price. I had another one today, reduced by 30% down to 104p because the eat-by date was 07 May. It was delicious.
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Domi,
I was talking to Razor about this just yesterday in fact as he's doing his own take on a base but worried about the colour (apologies Razor if it was a secret!)
Tis fine, no secret :) orrrrrr maybe custard coloured base IS the secret ::)
Ray :)
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Any news on the recipes, Bez....curry day tomorrow here ;D
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Hiya Dom,
Well, I promised myself no more curries this week as I think I'd overdone it. So guess what I had for mi tea last night?....fekin Chicken Tikka Jal Frezi :-\
I reverted back to my own base http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=4596.0 (http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=4596.0) and I used some reclaimed oil that I had in the fridge. It was probably my best effort this year. Everything was on the money. I pre-fried my peppers, onion and green chillies in a bit of the reclaimed oil for about 1 minute, then added a couple of chef spoons of base, and just reduced it off.
It was fantastic, it really was. Now I don't know if it was down to the oil or not, but the flavour was deep, savoury, something that I don't get as obvious when using fresh oil?
My experimental base, you know, the custard colour one, was ok but it stunk to high heaven, and the day after, mi arse sounded like a load ov bagpipes ::) The initial smell of it was very old school, but after a couple of days in the fridge, it just smelt awful.
Back to the old drawing board with that one I think.
Ill send you the pics of the madras that I made with it, see what you think.
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hahaha
The initial smell of it was very old school
That remark referred to the base, not mi arse ;D ;D ;D
Ray ;D
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Ray I was PMSL when I read that. I immediately started to reply but then noticed you'd got there first...d'oh! ;D
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It was fantastic, it really was. Now I don't know if it was down to the oil or not, but the flavour was deep, savoury, something that I don't get as obvious when using fresh oil?
Ray if it was oil reclaimed from previous curries then yes it's definitely down to the oil, if from the base though well probably not so much.
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SS,
As soon as I pressed post, I realised, and thought I better get in quick lol,
Yeah, the oil was from a previous curry, and it was divine. I know that it's something you do, as you mentioned it to me recently.
The way forward for me: use way too much oil, spoon off what I don't require, use on next curry
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Blummen'eck! I wish I'd read this thread before I answered your PM Ray lol ;D I've just had another look at your other base recipe and I'll give it a go tomorrow...it's not a million miles from Admins base (if I squint lol) and I imagine it could give similar results. As you know I rate admin's base very highly for use in madras/vindaloos etc I'll be trying the base out the same day (not had a curry for a while and I'm buggered if I can wait another day or two for the base to mature lol) and I'll be trying it with the Bruce Edward's madras ;) I'll let you know how I get on ;)
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As you know I rate admin's base very highly for use in madras/vindaloos etc...
I tried this base out for the second time pretty much on your recommendation Domi, a couple of bases ago. And well it didn't do much for me, although at least this time it didn't turn out bitter!
Shows you how much our tastes differ. Have you tried Bruce Edwards most recent base as that's my favourite and it would be interesting to see if you like it too?
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Which recipe did you try it with SS? It's the mutts for me for madras and vindaloo but it doesn't work as well for other recipes IMO but as I've said more than a few times, it's from a Bradford curry house and it's bang on for what I'm used to but I'm from West Yorks anyways so it could well be a regional thng, I dunno.
As for BE's base, I'm rather ashamed to say I've not tried it though I really don't know how I've not done so TBH....trouble is we sometimes have alot on @ home (our little lad has Noonan's syndrome) so I miss out months sometimes and when I get back things have moved on and I end up on different recipes lol so I end up playing catch-up on bases and often revert to tried and tested favourites. At the mo I've got 5 bases I really want to try (Dips - which I made and never got to use, Razors, Kushi and IG and now the BE base lol). I haven't got the freezer space to try them all out :(
I'm going to make Ray's base tomorrow and I'll do the BE next weekend :P I'll try to get some decent pics but I'm no David Bailey (I look more like David Bellamy TBH) :( I'll let you know how it goes though...
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Dom,
I'd be well chuffed if you gave mine a go and enjoyed it.
David Bellamy pmsfl, a legend in his own cabbage patch.
Ray :)
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OK. We need a nonsense chat thread. And LIDL is getting way too much publicity by being the headline. This is getting silly. And Morrisons have the best BIR-too-lazy-to-make-cook-chilled curries.
Go and buy them if you can't be arsed to make your own.
(I have shares in Morrisons. Eat away!)
Mike
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I cannot believe that after a couple of days away from this website, Lidl Curries are still the headline on here...........
What has happened to this site???? :(
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Which recipe did you try it with SS? It's the mutts for me for madras and vindaloo
I tried it with both of those Domi to my own recipes, which aren't that far from any standard madras or vindaloo recipes. It wasn't that it gave a bad result, it was just that I was expecting a more noticeable change from using my standard base and I didn't get it.
To be honest unless you go to extremes, the ashoka base for example, I don't find that much difference between most of the bases on this site and if you look at their contents, perhaps that's not so surprising!
our little lad has Noonan's syndrome
Sorry to hear that Domi, I can see how that would seriously eat into your free time. Actually I misread it when I first scanned your post. I thought it said Noon's syndrome and I thought what's that then, a condition whereby you set up a massive manufacturing base for supermarket curries?! Well if you're going to have a condition that wouldn't be a bad one to have would it?! ;D
I look more like David Bellamy TBH
Oh come on Domi! you've got far more facial hair than Mr Bellamy! ;)
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I cannot believe that after a couple of days away from this website, Lidl Curries are still the headline on here...........
What has happened to this site???? :(
I don't see any posts from you taking us in new directions 976bar! ::)
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OK. We need a nonsense chat thread. And LIDL is getting way too much publicity by being the headline. This is getting silly. And Morrisons have the best BIR-too-lazy-to-make-cook-chilled curries.
Go and buy them if you can't be arsed to make your own.
(I have shares in Morrisons. Eat away!)
Mike
Pratt - I hope you're not blaming me, even indirectly for flagging up bargain food. It's not my fault that the past few pages have drifted over to general chat about bases and things. The past few pages have been nothing to do with Lidl curries and, to that extent, are completely off-topic.
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Its all been said before in 2005 http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=408.msg3710#msg3710 (http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=408.msg3710#msg3710)
Also started by george, he really must have shares in lidl lmfao
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Its all been said before in 2005 http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=408.msg3710#msg3710 (http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=408.msg3710#msg3710)
Also started by george, he really must have shares in lidl lmfao
I don't think it's possible to buy shares in Lidl but, even if you can, my only link is as a satisfied customer. As it happens, I don't think the frozen korma is quite as good these days. Perhaps they changed the recipe. Has anyone tried any of the curries suggested at the start of this thread?
HK - it's not a very good start you've made is it? Normally I might say 'welcome' but not for you. You have only two posts at present and this post of yours is sneering and adds nothing.
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lol youve got to admit that its a bit bloody weird that you havent progressed from promoting friggin lidl chilled curries in 5 years on the forum you cant really claim that thats adding much can you roflmao ;D
you need to take a chill pill matey ive been watching all the disruption youve been causing and it isnt very pretty