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Title: Base and Madras Face-off - Bruce Edwards vs SnS
Post by: joshallen2k on May 03, 2009, 04:59 PM
Hi All,

I finally got around to putting my two favorite Base recipes head to head by making a Madras curry with each.

Comments to follow the pics.

1 - The two base sauces simmering away. The SnS was noticeably more orange/red than the BE, which was decidedly yellower/greener.

2 & 3 - Ingredients Ready to go. I cooked both curries more or less simultaneously. Both Madras recipes were exactly as written by Bruce and SnS.
Title: Re: Base and Madras Face-off - Bruce Edwards vs SnS
Post by: joshallen2k on May 03, 2009, 05:01 PM
4 - The finished SnS Madras (just missing coriander at this point)

5 - The finished Bruce Edwards Madras

6 - In Serving dishes - The BE is on the left, the SnS on the right.

Title: Re: Base and Madras Face-off - Bruce Edwards vs SnS
Post by: joshallen2k on May 03, 2009, 05:17 PM
OK, so observations...

- the consistency of the SnS was a little better (I put this down to the specific technique that SnS prescribes in the Madras recipe)

- they were both the same "hotness", which I wasn't expecting. I found the SnS base noticeably hotter than the BE, coupled with the added half teaspoon of Kashmiri Mirch in the recipe, meant I expected SnS' Madras to be hotter. That wasn't the case. Weird.

- the SnS yielded more oil in the finished curry than the BE, again unexpected as the BE starts with a full 4 tablespoons of oil.

- in terms of flavour, I could not pick between the two which one had decidedly better taste. I was equally happy with both.

So, to try and break the deadlock I had two other people (not particularly Madras fans) each try a forkful of chicken and sauce. Both gave me immediately the same reply as to which they preferred... which I put down to the....

Colour!! - the SnS yielded a redder curry, while the BE was noticeably browner. I too preferred the look of the SnS.

Now on to try CK's Madras...

-- Josh
Title: Re: Base and Madras Face-off - Bruce Edwards vs SnS
Post by: parker21 on May 03, 2009, 06:14 PM
hi josh great work mate and 2 outstanding curries! what would they have said if you had blind tested them? as we are all fooled by our eyes. ::)
regards
gary
Title: Re: Base and Madras Face-off - Bruce Edwards vs SnS
Post by: joshallen2k on May 03, 2009, 06:31 PM
Hi Gary - it really was a pick'em. The blind taste could have gone either way. There was a greater depth of flavour in the SnS. Could be down to the pinch of garam and MSG, not sure. One thing I DID miss out, was the 2 tsp of lemon juice in the BE. It got down to curry time, and I noticed I was out of lemon juice. To me that is a MUST in a Madras. That alone could have swayed my vote. That said, I've never tried lemon juice in the SnS Madras, which I will do next time.

-- Josh
Title: Re: Base and Madras Face-off - Bruce Edwards vs SnS
Post by: Bobby Bhuna on May 03, 2009, 07:12 PM
Awesome post! I knocked up some SnS base yesterday. It's good stuff!
Title: Re: Base and Madras Face-off - Bruce Edwards vs SnS
Post by: adriandavidb on May 03, 2009, 11:33 PM
Well done Sir!  It's a lot of work doing tests like this, but I think it's the only way to go.
Title: Re: Base and Madras Face-off - Bruce Edwards vs SnS
Post by: Unclebuck on May 04, 2009, 12:24 AM
Great post Josh, Thats dedication for you! both of those dishes look up to high restaurant standards i would go far as to say Ive seen and ordered worse.

Thanks UB.
Title: Re: Base and Madras Face-off - Bruce Edwards vs SnS
Post by: rallim on May 04, 2009, 02:21 AM
Excellent post.
Both dishes look fantastic.
Title: Re: Base and Madras Face-off - Bruce Edwards vs SnS
Post by: JerryM on May 04, 2009, 08:42 AM
Josh,

real good stuff as always.

it would have been interesting to have blind folded the 2 testers - before reading the observations i'd already decided i liked the SnS version as opposed to the BE. i wonder if that preconceived judgement does make a difference. i've made both of these myself at different times. i've checked back my photo's and the SnS for me was slightly redder too. i did however make a BE version with deggie making the colours equal.

really looking fwd to the CK madras result.
Title: Re: Base and Madras Face-off - Bruce Edwards vs SnS
Post by: SnS on May 05, 2009, 10:54 AM
Great report Josh.

(personally I don't like lemon juice in Madras though)

SnS
Title: Re: Base and Madras Face-off - Bruce Edwards vs SnS
Post by: naga dave on May 05, 2009, 06:37 PM
  Have I missed something, has BE had more material published, or is this from the Curry Mag articles? That must be about 20 years old now. I know he did a general curry piece on here, dont recall a Madras though.
Title: Re: Base and Madras Face-off - Bruce Edwards vs SnS
Post by: joshallen2k on May 06, 2009, 12:50 AM
Hi Naga Dave,

Bruce published an updated curry base on the site here last year. The post is here: http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=2815.0

The Madras itself is indeed the old recipe, but when he published the base last year, he provided a standard "curry" recipe as well. It was unchanged from the older version, so I felt safe using the original madras recipe.

Hope this helps.

-- Josh
Title: Re: Base and Madras Face-off - Bruce Edwards vs SnS
Post by: naga dave on May 06, 2009, 05:37 PM
 OK thanks for that. I just wondered if we were comparing like with like. If the recipe is the old one, it seems we aren't. Pity we haven't got an updated version. Seems he was a bit ahead of the rest of us and will probably  have moved on a little since then. And of course BIR currys have changed quite a lot since then too.

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