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Title: Methi... when?
Post by: joshallen2k on November 19, 2008, 12:23 AM
When is the right time to add methi?

After the base has been added? or With the spices?

Since I've been doing the latter, I always notice that the methi in the finished dish is a lot darker. I went back to the old way with tonights Madras and added it after the base.

Personally the result was miles better, and I like what methi adds to a dish.

Anyone have a definite answer, and why?

-- Josh
Title: Re: Methi... when?
Post by: haldi on November 19, 2008, 07:51 AM
If added at the start, you run the risk of burning it
I've seen chefs add a pinch right at the beginning, but generally it's added when everything is bubbling away
Title: Re: Methi... when?
Post by: Secret Santa on November 19, 2008, 10:09 AM
When the Malik chefs make fried rice it goes into the hot oil straight away along with some salt, and they stir it around for a few seconds before adding the rice. When making a curry they add it before the base sauce, so again they are stir frying it.

My own preference is to grind the leaves to a fine powder and add this after the base sauce has been added as this seems to distribute and bring out the flavour more evenly.
Title: Re: Methi... when?
Post by: Derek Dansak on November 19, 2008, 12:16 PM
methi in madras? definatly a no no in my book. its more for rogan josh etc. obviously its a personal taste thing though. adding at the start with onion, or during later stage with base,  works fine for me either way. adding half tsp early with onion gets great results for me (before adding base).
Title: Re: Methi... when?
Post by: Curry King on November 19, 2008, 03:23 PM
I have tried both and not noticed a massive difference but would side with adding them towards the end.  Not so sure about putting it in a Madras myself but essential for dhansak's and bhuna's.
Title: Re: Methi... when?
Post by: adriandavidb on November 19, 2008, 03:38 PM
I use dried methi leaf in Madras.  Like Secret Santa I grind the dried leaves in a spice grinder, although I add it (1/4 lev tps to 450 ml base) with the spices at the frying stage.  I cant say whether the taste would be stronger if added later, but I suspect it would!  I can say 'though, if I forget to use it, the result is obvious when it comes to eating.

For Bhuna and Bombay Spud, I tend to use the unground dried leaf a few seconds after the base has gone in. 
Title: Re: Methi... when?
Post by: SnS on November 19, 2008, 05:44 PM
Adding methi

http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=3135.msg28232#msg28232
Title: Re: Methi... when?
Post by: JerryM on November 19, 2008, 05:55 PM
is there a concensus on how much is needed.

i've tried 1 tsp and 1 pinch (2 finger) in the past per 200ml finished portion. the 1 tsp being too much and the 1 pinch a waste of time.
Title: Re: Methi... when?
Post by: Bobby Bhuna on November 19, 2008, 06:48 PM
It goes in all my curries. Getting the oiliness and smell from your crumbling fingers takes ages! Even after a good couple of showers. Weird stuff that Methi!
Title: Re: Methi... when?
Post by: joshallen2k on November 19, 2008, 08:59 PM
OK. Right at the end of the frying stage makes sense. I will go with that.

Really surprised to see the feedback from those who don't use methi in a Madras. I don't ever think I've done it without. Definitely adds to the aroma and taste. To me, curries without methi are invariably the korma/CTM variety.

-- Josh
Title: Re: Methi... when?
Post by: parker21 on November 19, 2008, 09:52 PM
hi guys see the rajver madras sauce method, it is added (a chefs pinch added after the base sauce is added!
regards
gary
Title: Re: Methi... when?
Post by: JerryM on November 20, 2008, 07:11 AM
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Really surprised to see the feedback from those who don't use methi in a Madras

i totally agree. i will give it a bit more of a go. not convinced it's going to work out though - for me methi is a step towards traditional in terms of taste. i don't use it in anything at the mo. i can't taste it in my TA's either and i'm pretty well alerted to it's taste. if it does turn out useful then it's going to be in adding to the subtle depth of flavour ie small amounts only.

i might even say it's the single item that makes or breaks me liking a BIR.
Title: Re: Methi... when?
Post by: Derek Dansak on November 20, 2008, 01:08 PM
if you like madras to be quite sweet and sour and light tasting, avoid methi.