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Traditional Indian Restaurant Recipes => Traditional Indian Recipes => Topic started by: livo on December 04, 2018, 12:49 AM
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I really have to get myself one of these spice grinders, ;D Automatic Spice Grinder (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGt5LFLU9XI)
But really, I found this video because I stumbled upon an Indian cooking blog by an Australian woman with Bombay ancestry and I was immediately interested in the use of Bombay Bottle Masala. So it's off on another little project. When does it end? ???
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I stumbled across references to bottle masala very recently in the Essential Marathi Cookbook and that piqued my interest. I found a number of recipes online that use it and so I went looking for a supply here in the UK.
I found that Ome Made https://omemade.co.uk/ sell it, I bought a packet, and am just waiting on an opportunity to try it out.
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I found the concept and production of BBM intriguing. I made the best possible copy I could. I very much enjoyed it and the dishes made using it. I gave a bottle to my dad and when it was all gone, never revisited.
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Livo
Do you recall how many individual spices you used in your BBM?
It seems some blends have 50 or more different spices, a number of which would likely be near impossible to track down here in the U.K. That is the reason I bought a ready made masala from Ome Made which purportedly has 53 different spices in the mix.
I have been on a very restricted diet for medical reasons for the last four weeks but hope to use the masala for the first time next weekend.
The masala I bought came in a packet but I have transferred it to a washed out Bovril jar to protect from light, as that seems to be an important consideration when storing the spice. Traditionally it would have been stored in washed and cleaned beer bottles, or so it is reported.
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Derby Dave also does a Bottle Masala tempest. I haven't tried it.
Omemade actually make Misty Ricardo's spice blends for him. Derby Dave and Misty are both moderators on a Facebook curry group (The Curry Secret) so perhaps there is a connection. I recall Dave did post some pics of his Bottle curry there that looked interesting.
Found the Curry Secret to be a nice group. The BIR dishes (main focus) are decidedly new school, but there is lots of trad cooking as well, sponsored and independent. There are also a few guys on there who travel to Goa regularly. Their photos/descriptions of food over there are certainly inspiring. Looks quality stuff. Cheap too.
Rob
https://derbydave.online/
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Thanks for the heads up on Derby Dave.
I received an order of Kolhapuri masala from Ome Made today but will look out for Derby Dave for any future Masala’s that I need. It is always good to spread the love.
T63
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Livo
Do you recall how many individual spices you used in your BBM?
It seems some blends have 50 or more different spices, a number of which would likely be near impossible to track down here in the U.K. That is the reason I bought a ready made masala from Ome Made which purportedly has 53 different spices in the mix.
I have been on a very restricted diet for medical reasons for the last four weeks but hope to use the masala for the first time next weekend.
The masala I bought came in a packet but I have transferred it to a washed out Bovril jar to protect from light, as that seems to be an important consideration when storing the spice. Traditionally it would have been stored in washed and cleaned beer bottles, or so it is reported.
Tempest, I don't remember if I wrote it down or printed what I ended up using, but I probably did. I'll have a look, but I did bookmark 5 different online recipes that I would have used, if not as the recipe I followed, as guide to what to use and quantities. I'll post the links in an hour or two when I'm at the PC.
I remember that some ingredients were just odd or difficult to obtain and I didn't use them.
I actually had mine packaged in amber glass beer bottles.
Edit: I had saved more links than I thought. I know I did do a lot or research before I made my batch. The last link has a couple of recipes that actually use the stuff.
https://showmerecipes.blogspot.com/2016/08/east-indian-bottle-masala-how-to-make.html (https://showmerecipes.blogspot.com/2016/08/east-indian-bottle-masala-how-to-make.html)
https://www.mangaloreanrecipes.com/recipes/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=86&Itemid=110 (https://www.mangaloreanrecipes.com/recipes/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=86&Itemid=110)
https://www.flavorsofmumbai.com/east-indian-bottle-masala-recipe/#google_vignette (https://www.flavorsofmumbai.com/east-indian-bottle-masala-recipe/#google_vignette)
https://bottlemasala.com/Bottle_Masala_Recipe.html (https://bottlemasala.com/Bottle_Masala_Recipe.html)
https://recipes.sparkpeople.com/recipe-detail.asp?recipe=625311 (https://recipes.sparkpeople.com/recipe-detail.asp?recipe=625311)
https://rasoitime.com/east-indian-bottle-masala/ (https://rasoitime.com/east-indian-bottle-masala/)
https://www.dnaindia.com/lifestyle/report-an-east-indian-speaks-on-the-importance-of-that-kitchen-staple-bottle-masala-1913067#google_vignette (https://www.dnaindia.com/lifestyle/report-an-east-indian-speaks-on-the-importance-of-that-kitchen-staple-bottle-masala-1913067#google_vignette)
https://www.deccanchronicle.com/sunday-chronicle/epicuriosity/091016/an-east-indian-feast.html (https://www.deccanchronicle.com/sunday-chronicle/epicuriosity/091016/an-east-indian-feast.html)
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This thread here on CRO has it all from when I made it, including the recipe I used. OP by Dal Puri and a very easy / simplified recipe posted by Chewy Tikka.
https://curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=11509.0#google_vignette (https://curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=11509.0#google_vignette)
Unfortunately, the link within to the Australian site I used is broken (Spicemama.com.au) However, I think it was only a link to the sale of her product (Wayback Machine). Here is the link to her Blog site which contains some recipes using it in the Recipe section.
https://www.spicemama.au/ (https://www.spicemama.au/)
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This thread here on CRO has it all from when I made it, including the recipe I used. OP by Dal Puri and a very easy / simplified recipe posted by Chewy Tikka.
https://curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=11509.0#google_vignette (https://curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=11509.0#google_vignette)
Unfortunately, the link within to the Australian site I used is broken (Spicemama.com.au) However, I think it was only a link to the sale of her product (Wayback Machine). Here is the link to her Blog site which contains some recipes using it in the Recipe section.
https://www.spicemama.au/ (https://www.spicemama.au/)
Thanks for all the information, I found the site really interesting and have bookmarked it for further attention.
Shame the salmon recipe is no longer there as that is a favourite of Mrs T63 and would have been one of the first I would attempt.
Thanks!
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This is the Salmon portion recipe I used. It was from Youtube, but I used the Masala I had made up instead of the one on the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esYuj6RC2Tw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esYuj6RC2Tw)
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This is the Salmon portion recipe I used. It was from Youtube, but I used the Masala I had made up instead of the one on the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esYuj6RC2Tw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esYuj6RC2Tw)
Thank you. One for the weekend.
My elemental diet ends after today so I will partake as well,
T63
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Just to note, I attempted to read this thread using a new Windows profile (my old profile would not honour the StartAllBack add-on which makes Windows 11 more user-friendly) and I found that to do so I had to install uBlock Origin — as far as I can tell, this is the only web site that I cannot visit without first blocking advertisements. Which means, of course, that I cannot recommend this site to anyone else. Very sad.
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** Phil.
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Which means, of course, that I cannot recommend this site to anyone else. Very sad.
Don't think it would make a difference anyway. Have we had any new, active members in the past two years? Weirdest forum I've ever known.
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It will be 3 years in June since anyone new joined. Like I said somewhere, it's proper exclusive on here.
Seriously though CRO is still a major resource for BIR cooking. Only recently I saw one of the big FB curry groups citing a post from here. One of CT's, on a chicken jhul (or similar) curry. I have also seen one of Santa's posts (and others) referenced. I suspect when we are open for business again there will be many new members chomping at the bit to sign up. The FB groups are fine, but there is no real analysis, or critique, like here. So, in the meantime, it's good we are here to keep the fires burning.
Rob
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Here is a fairly recent article/recipe for a bottle masala curry plugging (in part) Derby Dave's product.
https://glebekitchen.com/bottle-masala-chicken-curry-restaurant-style/
Interesting read.
Glebe do some good stuff. A decent resource. Contemporary BIR approach, not a bad thing. Although, these days I can't help thinking the "trap" the author mentions is instead the blank canvass gravy approach itself. Shock horror! Depends on what people are looking for, I suppose. Or maybe I am just bonkers :)
Rob
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It will be 3 years in June since anyone new joined. Like I said somewhere, it's proper exclusive on here.
Seriously though CRO is still a major resource for BIR cooking. Only recently I saw one of the big FB curry groups citing a post from here. One of CT's, on a chicken jhul (or similar) curry. I have also seen one of Santa's posts (and others) referenced. I suspect when we are open for business again there will be many new members chomping at the bit to sign up. The FB groups are fine, but there is no real analysis, or critique, like here. So, in the meantime, it's good we are here to keep the fires burning.
Rob
Hear hear.
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Here is a fairly recent article/recipe for a bottle masala curry plugging (in part) Derby Dave's product.
https://glebekitchen.com/bottle-masala-chicken-curry-restaurant-style/
Interesting read.
Glebe do some good stuff. A decent resource. Contemporary BIR approach, not a bad thing. Although, these days I can't help thinking the "trap" the author mentions is instead the blank canvass gravy approach itself. Shock horror! Depends on what people are looking for, I suppose. Or maybe I am just bonkers :)
Rob
Our loss but Romain's site is a great resource.
This is a fairly recent video for anyone interested in attempting their own Bottle Masala. However, I've not seen Mugwort looking like this stuff anywhere unless it is the flower. Even that is questionable. I thought mugwort is a leafy herb. Also ensuring the 3 different types of chilli won't be an easy task. Requesting Pandi Mirch, Kashmiri Mirch and Bedge Mirch (Byadgi) anywhere over here at least, will raise confused looks upon the staff at the Indian Grocers. I do love the appearance of the fresh spices being used, and you can only imagine the aroma and flavour. We don't get spices anywhere near this quality here.
https://youtu.be/QxyuTT5itZo?si=SdcERuIFl5dS2HJD (https://youtu.be/QxyuTT5itZo?si=SdcERuIFl5dS2HJD)
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Morning Bites video East Indian Bottle Masala Recipe. 28 ingredients.
This would need to be scaled for a home use as it makes just shy of 2 kg.
Ingredients are individually / group roasted, cooled and ground to a fine powder masala.
In video order,
150 g Coriander seed
250 g Cumin seed
250 g Mustard seed (brown)
10 g Mace
10 g Mugwort (Note: These appear to be reverse labelled and ??? mugwort. Not sure what this is.)
25 g Stone Flower
10 g Cubeb (Tailed Pepper)
25 g Black Cardamom
10 g Triphala (Note: possibly omit this if unavailable. Ayurvedic ingredient.)
25 g Sesame seed
25 g Fenugreek seed
50 g Fennel seed
25 g Cloves
30 g Star Anise
35 g Green Cardamom
35 g Black Peppercorn
150 g Cinnamon stick
4 x Nutmeg
1 piece stone Asafoetida (substitute powder hing, quantity ?)
200 g Turmeric root (substitute powder)
30 g Poppy seed
30 g Caraway seed
25 g Tej Patta
25 g Wheat kernel (Warning: contains gluten)
25 g Gram (dehydrated chickpea)
100 g Pandi Mirch
200 g Kashmiri Mirch
200 g Bedgi Mirch (Byadgi)
I would imagine that 500 g of MDH Deggi Mirch would be a suitable substitute for the 500 g of chilli varieties.