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Supplementary Recipes (Curry Powders, Curry Paste, Restaurant Spice Mixes) => Supplementary Recipes Chat => Topic started by: Williammealyea on January 07, 2007, 12:28 AM
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Where can I buy this stuff from. I am not in the catering buisness, is there an online store that sells and delivers this stuff cos I am keen to try Andys new Base/gravy and also chilliprawns UCB.
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Where can I buy this stuff from. I am not in the catering buisness, is there an online store that sells and delivers this stuff cos I am keen to try Andys new Base/gravy and also chilliprawns UCB.
I was searching for this too. There are wholesale suppliers that stock 1kg tubs of this at ?12.99. Click Me To See It (http://www.unileverfoodsolutions.co.uk/products/portfolio/show/512-1472-0-2024602.knorr_clear_vegetable_bouillon.html)
I tried to see if costco has it but their website is limited. I imagine they would have it though like all the other ingredients ::)
I'm excited about this as both Chilli Prawns & Andy's recipe constitute KNORR VEGETABLE BOUILLON as a BIR ingredient :D :D
*EDIT* Sainsbury's stocks it in granules. I cannot link to it for some reason. Go to there website and look under All gravies and stock ;) Is this the same as the catering tub stuff?
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Hi
You could try the granules. The tubs that are used are available from Bookers or Makro wholesalers
Regards
Andy
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Surely the granules are different to the paste Andy?
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These sites are from different countries, so there may be differences -- I don't know.
The paste has these ingredients (http://www.unileverfoodsolutions.ie/products/portfolio/show/1266-0-1-10405101.knorr_vegetable_bouillon_paste_3x40l.html):
Salt, Vegetable Fat, Flavour Enhancer (Monosodium Glutamate, Disodium Inosinate, Disodium Guanylate), Yeast Extract, Dehydrated Vegetables (1.7%) in variable proportions (Carrot, Cabbage, Leek), Flavourings (Contain Celery), Herbs, Juice Concentrates (Apple, Onion, Carrot), Colour (Ammonia Caramel), Dextrose, Sugar, Spices, Maltodextrin, Citric Acid, Hydrogenated Vegetable Fat
The bouillon cubes (http://www.asiamex.com/proddetail.cfm?CFID=447999&CFTOKEN=683248&ItemID=665&CategoryID=3&SubCatID=84) that has these ingredients:
Salt, Partially Hydrogenated Soybean and Cottonseed Oils, Monosodium Glutamate, Hydrolyzed Protein, Tomato Paste, Natural and Artificial Flavors, Dehydrated Vegetables, Buttermilk, Butter, Potato Starch, Onion Powder, Sugar, Garlic Powder, Wheat Flour, Maltodextrin, Citric Acid, Autolyzed Yeast Extract, Spices, Caramel Color, Disodium Inosinate, Disodium Guanylate, Dehydrated Soy Sauce, Parsley Flakes, Gum Arabic, Corn Syrup Solids, Ascorbic Acid, Thiamin Hydrochloride, Modified Food Starch, Vinegar, Whey, Sodium, Caseinate, Lactic Acid
The granules seem to contain (http://www.unileverfoodsolutions.co.za/products/categories/show/693-3053-0-12148.knorr_vegetable_bouillon_granules_6_x_1kg.html):
Salt, monosodium glutamate, yeast extract, vegetable oil (contains antioxidant TBHQ), vegetables, modified starch, spices, flavourants, parsley, flavour enhancer (E631, E627), sugar
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hi guys/gls
sorry to but in but my mother in law (god rest her sole just before crimbo) gave me some "organic marigold swiss vegetable vegan bouillon powder" its ingredients sea salt, yeast extract rice flour,vegetables 8%(onion, carrots, celery), palm oil, turmeric, parsley and its gluten free. the pot is 150grams and makes 7.5 litres of stock i think you can buy it in waitrose.
a possible vegetarian/ vegan alternative?
regards
gary
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I am not a big fan of products with MSG in them - I wonder if there is an alternative .
CC
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I am not a big fan of products with MSG in them - I wonder if there is an alternative .
CC
I wonder too CC, though the situation right now is that this paste is being used in the two recipes CP(USB) & Andy have posted being used in BIRs. Maybe when we try this and crack "the taste" & "the smell" using this paste, we can then experiment with a paste similar with no MSG. ;)
I too would prefer No MSG but I got the feeling all BIRs are using it at some stage :-\
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Is it the green or yellow one that the bir's use?
perhaps we should buy a big pot and split it up umongst ourselves and see what the results are. A big tub would last me years and likely be gone off by the time I get half way down the pot!
KP(V)
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Is it the green or yellow one that the bir's use?
perhaps we should buy a big pot and split it up umongst ourselves and see what the results are. A big tub would last me years and likely be gone off by the time I get half way down the pot!
KP(V)
There seems to be different tubs of this, ohKP, you can get a 500g tub(see last link) :o Which one is it.....Andy, can you help?? :-\
http://www.unileverfoodsolutions.ie/products/portfolio/show/1266-0-1-10405101.knorr_vegetable_bouillon_paste_3x40l.html
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http://www.unileverfoodsolutions.co.uk/products/portfolio/show/512-1472-3-34974.knorr_paste_bouillon_vegetable_1kg.html
OR
http://www.unileverfoodsolutions.co.uk/products/portfolio/show/512-1472-4-30398.knorr_paste_bouillon_vegetable_500g.html
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Hi all.
If you want to look at the chemical build up between paste and granules then there are going to be differences. Please bear in mind that at the takeaway we use paste. I cannot foresee a difference in the two to a great extent but perhaps i should recommened the paste as that is what is used.
As the takeaway/restaurant has a bookers account for the purchase of the 1kg tubs then we should skick to this (trying to be accurate).
Obviously i could not expect home users suddenly to go get a bookers account but dont have alternatives for the supply of such.
The chefs have NOT tried the granule version.
Regards
Andy
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Well...... not only are we all searching for "the taste" and "the smell" now it would apear we are in search of the rare "Knorr Vegetable Bouillon catering paste" good luck everyone. :)
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Well...... not only are we all searching for "the taste" and "the smell" now it would apear we are in search of the rare "Knorr Vegetable Bouillon catering paste" good luck everyone. :)
LoL we are a fussy bunch ;D
As Andy said his BIR uses the 1kg catering tub out of bookers, so it looks like I will be joining bookers and we can't really go wrong then can we ;)
DAMN only problem is I need to be a bonafide trader or caterer :'( I'm away to weep :'(
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If anyone will buy my king prawn tandoori sizzler, I can be a bonafide caterer. Just need some letter head and business card and I'm away.......!
(OK seriously, what evidence do they need when joining these places?)
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Surely Makro will have it. Everybody knows someone with a Makro card.
A8
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I posted this info somewhere her last year but here it is again.
It is called Knorr Vegetable Boullion (new improved recipe) It has the words Easy Scoop and Paste on the tub. It weighs 1Kg. It is basically a yellow pot with green patches and a green lid. The pot sice is approx 12cm high by 12cm diameter. The product code is 241681350 and it is made by Unilever. On the lower front there are a few round green indicators- Makes 40 litres, Gluten free, No artificial colours, No artificial flavours, suitable for vegetarians, Suitable for Vegans. It does contain flavour enhancers but does not indicate amounts. It can be stored in a coll place for about 12 months or more (I have had my last for 12 with 3 more to go. Bookers Makro and other wholesalers sell it. I am told that no other types will do, e.g. domestic, as they contain too many other additives and too much salt.
CP
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Yellow Fingers and Bart,
You've both tried making CP's curry base haven't you?
If so, where did you buy your "Knorr Vegetable Bouillon catering paste" from please?
Thanks, :P
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hi ca
my son is a chef in the catering buisness and he has a account with bookers.
where we live bookers are only 3 mile away from us,and it was my son that bought it for me.
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Hi Everyone,
I have been watching this discussion with great interest - it is warming up nicely ;)
My question is not intended to fan the flames of this debate - from a personal point of view some of the comments have been slightly unfair and counter-productive - I simply thought I would ask a simple question which may add another slant. I fully expect this to be quickly dispelled! :)
Just how long has Knorr Vegetable Bouillon Paste been around? Surely the 'taste' precedes this product?
Just something that crossed my mind...
CL_NZ
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Hi CL, it has been around since God was a boy under diffrenet formulas. My Father was a chef and when he taught me the basics way back in the 50's he was using Knorr (but I think it had a trade name then) bouillion. I think I precede the BIR revolution except Veeraswamy's :o ;D
Getting a card from Makro can be more difficult than Bookers. The process for both is to get a name for your business (must be food related) and produce evidence of your residential/business address. You must also produce evidence of your trading situation. I just printed off a couple of made up invoices. Not a problem now because I am well established. Contact a friendly retailer or pub or hotel and make some bills out to them. Makro do make a regular review and I guess so do Bookers; but as long as you trade regularly and your payments to them look reasonable (I spend about ?700 per year with Bookers) they should leave you alone.
Just a word of warning though, in a lot of cases Tescos can be much cheaper and they will also order trade stuff for you if they can.
Just a point, MSG is created from vegetables ??? see these links to get a better understanding of MSG
http://www.msgtruth.org/whatisit.htm (http://www.msgtruth.org/whatisit.htm)
http://www.foodproductdesign.com/archive/1998/0298AP.html
The things mentioned here should ring a bell; I have been saying things on these lines for a long time and more recently on the use of stock production and use.
A bit anal I know, but maybe it will push your serach efforts elsewhere.
CP
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I was able to get a Makro card pretty easily for my mother, who has nothing to do with my business. She spends much more there than I do. If you know someone with a card, you may be able to use them to get one yourself. They sell a lot of Knorr stuff there (and Barts).
Remember, Shy bairns get nowt!
A8
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;D ;D Too true After8 mate, too true.
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In reply to Cory Ander.
I have to admit on my first batch I just used knorr stock cubes as I didn't really think it would make a difference. I was reticent to use any stock cube/paste at all as I know from experience that it hinders the oil removal process later, but to try to keep to the recipe I used what I could get hold of at the time.
However, I've since made another batch because I managed to get the knorr paste and there's a good tip here. I asked my mates to ask at their works' canteens to see if any of them used it and it turns out that two of them did and so I managed - or rather my mate managed - to scrounge a small cup full for me. The only thing is that I didn't realise that there were several varieties of the paste and so I'm still not sure if I used the exact same one as CP recommends. However, I think it's academic because, as I expected, it made no perceptible difference to the flavour of the base as compared to the plain stock cubes.
If you want to buy some just Google "Knorr vegetable paste". I found five different catering suppliers within a minute. It's expensive though, cheapest was about ?12 per 1kg tin.
YF
P.S. If this really is a common ingredient of high street curries it will be available in quantity at any asian grocer/spice merchant.
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In reply to Cory Ander.
P.S. If this really is a common ingredient of high street curries it will be available in quantity at any asian grocer/spice merchant.
Hi YF, thanks for that response. This is what research is all about, and input from everyone here is very valuable and can only contribute to the final solution. On your point about catering Bouillion, I can't recall seeing it in any of the many Asian grocers I have visited, but I have seen it in the large Asian supermarkets that do Wholesale and retail. However, I regularly see the Indian chefs shopping in the Makros and Bookers that I have used (the local ones chefs here are a bit more wary now they know I am a potential competitor, but very friendly nevertheless ;D ;D
CP
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...I can't recall seeing it in any of the many Asian grocers I have visited...
My point exactly. You know as well as I do how savvy these Asian grocers are. If there's a market for a product you can be sure their shelves will be well stocked with it. My contention is that although you may use this particular stock paste, I think that 99% of high street BIRs aren't using it or any other shop bought stock for that matter.
Also, as I posted earlier, all of the cubes, granules and pastes promote the emulsification of the oils in the base, making it bloody difficult to achieve separation later. We know that the separation of the oil from the curry is a standard curry house technique, so anything that makes it more difficult is unlikely to be used.
YF
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Yes YF I agree on that point too.
CP