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Title: In The Kitchen
Post by: Gav Iscon on April 14, 2015, 10:38 PM
We been using the same Indians for about 29 years. We obviously do go to others and have had better food but its the main one we use as its reasonably priced, reasonable food and very friendly.  The father left to open another place a while ago and now the son runs it with whom I'm quite friendly with. My missus for some reason likes their madras and Sri Lankan better than any other anywhere for some reason so tonight I got into the kitchen to see how its done and why can i not get near it.
My plan was to video it but it went out the window when he said you'll be cooking the sri lankan. Its amazing how quick these chefs knock these curries up and the multi tasking (at 100mph) makes it hard to keep up with what happening. Anyway I watched him do the madras and as it was bubbling away out came the pan for me to do the Sri Lankan. And heres the difference. No oil but they use just garlic which is blended with oil to start it off and a splash of garabi and then mix powder, chilli, coconut powder, salt, and tom puree and the a wedge of lemon Cook off for a minute then in goes the chicken and the rest of the garabi. A few mins later its in the tub. I asked about their garabi (they had just started a pot) and basically it was Onions, carrots and then some green peppers with tom puree and mix powder in the second stage. I'll get more details next time i'm in. As for the mix powder, he quite happily told me what was in it ( 5 spices) but he couldn't really say how much as he just does it by eye in a massive bowl. The same with the cooking with his pretentious chef's spoon. I was close with my measurements but he was telling me a bit more or a bit less with some of them. I could have put more chili in as I thought I had a good tablespoon in. Anyway they are moving premises soon and I'll definitely get back in. I also got a tub of mix from him to try.

His father has another place and he's said a few times that he would give me a few lessons at lunchtimes if I brought the meat. The father also keeps giving me a bag of his 21 spice mix (which his wife hand grinds) every time I go to his restaurant.

Heres my result and although they look the same which they are apart from the coconut powder, its Sri Lankan on the left and madras on the right. Chicken just under the surface.

(http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/pics/6f5472b6f20af931a15db58497aa9746.jpg) (http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/#6f5472b6f20af931a15db58497aa9746.jpg)
Title: Re: In The Kitchen
Post by: littlechilie on April 14, 2015, 10:52 PM
Hi Gaviscon, Great for you to get inside the kitchen  8) let's hope for good things and great posts.
Title: Re: In The Kitchen
Post by: Stu-pot on April 14, 2015, 10:55 PM
Well done Gav for getting into their Kitchen (my wife says its cos you didn't pay the bill! Lol...) not easy I know.  The sauce looks tasty. 

Stu
Title: Re: In The Kitchen
Post by: Naga on April 14, 2015, 10:56 PM
Nice work, Gav! That short write-up is one of the most interesting things I've read on the forum for a good while. The recipes may well be regional (or not!),  but its the techniques, basic ingredients, and rationale underpinning the cookery that's important. Looking forward to more scribblings on your curry journey. :)
Title: Re: In The Kitchen
Post by: Gav Iscon on April 14, 2015, 10:57 PM
I'll definitely be in for another go. Great fun cooking on those powerful burners. Its just so quick.  :)

Blokes been the chef there for nearly 20 years but they are finishing at the end of the month and moving nearer the town centre.
Title: Re: In The Kitchen
Post by: chewytikka on April 15, 2015, 12:46 AM
Well done Gav, having some real BIR fun. ;D ;D

Me being south of the river, I
Title: Re: In The Kitchen
Post by: mickdabass on April 15, 2015, 08:05 AM
Really interesting read Gav.
Now this is what cr0 is all about!
Looking forward to hearing more - especially with regards to the spice mix

Regards

Mick
Title: Re: In The Kitchen
Post by: Onions on April 15, 2015, 10:32 AM
Yeah! tHe TWENTYONESPICE MIX!!!  :o
Title: Re: In The Kitchen
Post by: Gav Iscon on April 15, 2015, 10:49 AM
Yeah! tHe TWENTYONESPICE MIX!!!  :o

Sounds a lot but if you look at most mix powders, there's around 12 spices in the curry powder alone.
Title: Re: In The Kitchen
Post by: Gav Iscon on April 15, 2015, 10:53 AM
Well done Gav, having some real BIR fun. ;D ;D

Me being south of the river, I
Title: Re: In The Kitchen
Post by: livo on April 15, 2015, 11:19 AM
Isn't Kitchen King the standard for the 21?  The only problem is that I've recently found 3 different "brands" of Kitchen King. Shan, MDH and Melan. Plus I have made my own from a recipe found online, which I must say is pretty good.

Make that 4, Mangal as well.
Title: Re: In The Kitchen
Post by: Onions on April 15, 2015, 02:08 PM
iS IT coriander, Chilli, Turmeric, Cumin, Black pepper, Fenugreek leaves, Salt, Nutmeg, Dry ginger, Cardamom seeds, Bay leaf, Fennel Celeary, Mustard garlic flakes, Onion flakes, Mace, Asafoetida? Just found it online, by three differeing types?
Title: Re: In The Kitchen
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on April 15, 2015, 02:31 PM
iS IT coriander, Chilli, Turmeric, Cumin, Black pepper, Fenugreek leaves, Salt, Nutmeg, Dry ginger, Cardamom seeds, Bay leaf, Fennel Celeary, Mustard garlic flakes, Onion flakes, Mace, Asafoetida? Just found it online, by three differeing types?

Even allowing for the odd missing comma, I still make that only 18:


** Phil.
Title: Re: In The Kitchen
Post by: Micky Tikka on April 15, 2015, 06:40 PM
Well done Gav
I think being in the kitchen is the ultimate thing for us ( and also cooking with chewy  ;) )
I've done it once and it doesn't matter if the curry is mediocre it's just being in a kitchen and watching
I remember thinking there's no special missing ingredients it's just technique
Cheers MT
Title: Re: In The Kitchen
Post by: Gav Iscon on April 15, 2015, 06:50 PM
Couldn't agree more mt.  :)
Title: Re: In The Kitchen
Post by: livo on April 16, 2015, 12:06 AM
The recipe / formula for Kitchen King I made had 20, which did not include Bay Leaf, Celery Seed, Garlic or Onion powders or Asafoetida. It does have, additional to the above list, Caraway, Cloves, Black Cardamom, Bengal Gram (Gram Flour), Cinnamon, Star Anise and Poppy Seed.

Another Brand is "Mangal" which has 17 listed ingredients of which only 4 are roasted (heat treated). 

MDH brand actually has the 21, with 20 from those previously listed plus Musk Melon as the last, so least volume ingredient.

Title: Re: In The Kitchen
Post by: Graeme on April 16, 2015, 12:40 AM
What a great thread  :)
Title: Re: In The Kitchen
Post by: JerryM on April 16, 2015, 07:02 PM
Lovely post and a bit enjoyment for once.

I went to school with Asians and they really are very nice. Its interesting for me how the next generations have changed so much - still just as nice but now western.

I got talking to a 20 something last summer whilst working - the thing that amazed him was how interested I was in Indian cooking. Its a complete 180.
Title: Re: In The Kitchen
Post by: Onions on April 16, 2015, 07:06 PM
Musk Melon

That sounds... interesting!!!
Title: Re: In The Kitchen
Post by: livo on April 17, 2015, 01:54 AM
My guess is that it is the seed from the melon, also known as, or used in, Charmagaz, depending upon who you choose to believe.