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Curry Chat => Talk About Anything Other Than Curry => Topic started by: Gav Iscon on April 09, 2015, 09:50 PM
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9 April - I deleted the topic/thread started by Graeme entitled something like "Do you think George should resign?"
I think you'll find it was started by me.
Since CH has been made a moderator you've continually posted self justifying posts bringing the forum into disrepute. You obviously didn't like the poll that was clearly democratic. You've lost the plot George. You post that prospective new comers would be put of by seeing posts mocking kormas and what they really are seeing is your persistent rantings that for somehow you are right whilst very nearly everyone else thinks your wrong.
>:(
PS. Perhaps you should apologise to Graeme. >:(
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That will explain why all my posts have been vanishing tonight
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Just a brief- yet happy!-reminder, the poll was 16-2 against him.
CH can always undelete of course...
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16-3 when i last looked ;)
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Your wrong Gav
It should be changed to Should George be sacked this time !
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16-3 when i last looked ;)
Ah! He pulled one back!*
*Very tempted to add, 'And possibly off' just there ;)
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May I change my vote ? Not even trusting, ingenuous, na
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Ah! Back to 16-2 then 8)
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Would that not be then 17 - 2?
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So it would :-X
I'll get me abacus.
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The fact that there was a poll does not make it democratic Phil. You can't run your own election whenever you want. Not how democracy works I'm afraid.
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Isnt George and dc same person? he would have voted no so dc vote is void 17-1 lol
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The fact that there was a poll does not make it democratic Phil. You can't run your own election whenever you want. Not how democracy works I'm afraid.
Construe, please.
** Phil.
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It was 18-3 last I looked.
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The fact that there was a poll does not make it democratic Phil. You can't run your own election whenever you want. Not how democracy works I'm afraid.
Construe, please.
** Phil.
Democracy is the election of leaders or changes to a constitution by method of organised polling under the governance of an electoral commission.
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Thank you ! However ...
a. Government by the people; esp. a system of government in which all the people of a state or polity (or, esp. formerly, a subset of them meeting particular conditions) are involved in making decisions about its affairs, typically by voting to elect representatives to a parliament or similar assembly; (more generally) a system of decision-making within an institution, organization, etc., in which all members have the right to take part or vote. In later use often more widely, with reference to the conditions characteristically obtaining under such a system: a form of society in which all citizens have equal rights, ignoring hereditary distinctions of class or rank, and the views of all are tolerated and respected; the principle of fair and equal treatment of everyone in a state, institution, organization, etc.
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When i voted it was 19 (let him go) and 2 to keep him.
so where has the votes gone ?
This should be taken to Admin, can someone explain to admin whats been going on.
i started no thread and once again no apology from the mod for getting it wrong again..
Help !!
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From preceding posts, is there a suggestion that George has been pockling the poll with duplicate identities?
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Isnt George and dc same person? he would have voted no so dc vote is void 17-1 lol
Who is DC? It's certainly not me. I'm afraid this is the sort of misinformation I'm being subject to, mostly from members like you who have used very bad language, and then harbour a grudge when I moderate it out. It's all so predictable.
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When i voted it was 19 (let him go) and 2 to keep him.
so where has the votes gone ?
This should be taken to Admin, can someone explain to admin whats been going on.
i started no thread and once again no apology from the mod for getting it wrong again..
Help !!
I'm sorry I thought it was you that started the thread and poll.
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George in "not a clue what's going on" non-shocker. Utterly unqualified to have any position of power on this forum.
This site will never develop into a healthy and strong community while he's in post and it beggars belief that admin cannot see this. Vision? Blinkers more like.
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Does anyone know where the original thread has gone ? and why ?
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.......members like you who have used very bad language, and then harbour a grudge when I moderate it out. It's all so predictable.
1. I don't use very bad language and any swear words I have used are not in a malicious way
2. What makes you think I hold a grudge? Have I ever shown signs of a grudge against you?
3. I suggested that you should resign from modding and start cooking curries again and enjoying the forum, not what a grudge holder would post
4. The only thing predictable is your continued argumentative and troll like irrelevant rambling nonsensical posts
End of for me, do yourself a favour and resign before making yourself look even more foolish, if that's even possible
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Does anyone know where the original thread has gone ? and why ?
George deleted it, because he thinks that that way the issue will go away.
Bit like in a playground :D
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That will explain why all my posts have been vanishing tonight
And mine, but they do say that "The truth hurts" George must be in some real pain by now ;D
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Is anyone going to burst to the deletion of the poll by Gav Iscon entitled: 'Do You Think George Should Resign As a Moderator'
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What made Gav Iscon think he had the right to implement "The Poll" in the first place? His thread was a bit too much like a public lynching for my liking. I had privately and now publicly support George for removing it.
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That will explain why all my posts have been vanishing tonight
And mine, but they do say that "The truth hurts" George must be in some real pain by now ;D
I think you will find that your posts were possibly not "locked in" from the start. The volume of replies going up at the same time simply means that the technology is failing to keep up and if you had used the back arrow on your browser you would have found that someone else was posting either just before, or at the same time as you.
I have experienced this on several occasions here and especially in these heated threads. You should not jump to conclusions that George deleted your posts.
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Are you another one for denying people "rights", livo? Gav Iscon can answer for himself, but he had every right to ask the question and those who voted had the right to do so. You've voiced your opinion on this issue and I'm sure that forum members will respect you right to declare it.
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What made Gav Iscon think he had the right to implement "The Poll" in the first place? His thread was a bit too much like a public lynching for my liking. I had privately and now publicly support George for removing it.
The right I had was the poll button that is there at the top of each board for members to use. Your entitled to your own opinion and so am I, its a forum. Personally I usually just ignore Georges posts along with the barbed comments he normally adds but coming on today and finding the forum full of his back peddling over posting a Private /Personal message from a member was the final straw. He's now even trying to deflect the flak onto Onions. And as for a public lynching, I think he needs one.
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Certainly not Naga. I am just surprised that within a forum such as this, the normal membership level contributor even has the ability to implement a formal Forum Poll, obviously using a function designed to do it.
I am also astonished that a member would take it upon themselves to initiate such a blatant attack on the appointed moderator. ( Now reposted in 2 forms - resignation and sacking))
This is not to say that I agree with all that George has done or not. I don't agree with all that other members have done either, I am simply discussing the methods and levels used in this whole sorry situation.
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Livo
Stop being a poof
Your obviously related to georgie
One more gin ;)
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Livo
Stop being a poof
Your obviously related to georgie
One more gin ;)
Ouch, Now I'm really hurt by that. :P Some of my good friends are of the other persuasion, but I'm afraid your wrong about me on both counts.
All I'm saying is this. I am a member of several other internet forums and I'm trying to imagine this type of vendetta against a moderator on any of the others and what would happen. I can probably quite safely say that it would not be the moderator who ended up on the outside.
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Obviously I'm just being light hearted
But I have shared a meal with George and he is a pleasant chap
But not a pleasant mod surly you can see that
Enough is enough
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Yes, I knew that MT. ;)
I'm not worried about who is or isn't a nice chap, an absolute point head, or a good or bad mod. It is the approach and methods being used that I call into question. To any outsider, newcomer or one of the many members who remain in the background, it must be a very poor look. This is tantamount to airing ones soiled linens in public. It's just not a good look in my opinion.
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But livo
This has not happened over night
It has been painful for a couple of years
And you starting another poll well join the gang :)
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Replied in the "polls?" thread. More relevant over there.
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Anyway just heard the sad news
Richie Benaud has passed away
Very sad and puts things in perspective
Mt
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He had been unwell recently and was looking very aged. I love the 12th man versions of Sir Richie. So unPC but I can't help laughing my heart out.
Another sad day for cricket, eh what!
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Livo, with all due respect to yourself, I'm not sure how much time you spend reading this particular forum and how aware toy might be of George's pattern of behaviour and how harmful it is to the other users of this site.
The fact is, people have ignored and ostracised him for a long time and it's only resulted in more and more blatant provocation.. With admin not being around for the majority of the time, he has had free rein - people speaking out (as Gav did with his poll) is entirely the right way to deal with it, preferably followed up with a PM from each concerned member to Admin.
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Sverige, with all due respect, I recall your first post, and I can honestly say that you have been involved in a lot of controversial postings from the outset.
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Meow!! ;D
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What made Gav Iscon think he had the right to implement "The Poll" in the first place? His thread was a bit too much like a public lynching for my liking. I had privately and now publicly support George for removing it.
Livo, you are relatively new here, but if you read back through the archives you will see that I have consistently supported George through thick and thin [1], taking considerable flak in the process. But George's action in deleting an entire thread which was, in effect, a referendum, was the last straw. At that point, even I stopped supporting George. If George objected to the thread (as he had every right to do), then he should have used the "Report to moderator" button to draw it and its contents to his fellow moderator's attention; the two of them should then have discussed whether it was to be deleted or allowed to stay, and then announced their joint decision before any further action was taken. But to unilaterally delete the the thread was completely unacceptable behaviour from someone in a position of responsibility, and therefore, for the very first time, I was forced to accept that George's time as moderator must surely be at an end.
And I cannot agree that Gav's poll was in any way similar to a public lynching; it was, whether you accept my use of the word "democratic" in this context or not, an action based in the very roots of democracy -- the people rising up, spontaneously, to protest at the rule of a tyrant and demand his overthrow. In a lynching, the people are judge, jury and executioner -- in a poll such as Gav's, the people are simply the jury, reporting their findings to the judge (Stu) in public and awaiting his decision.
** Phil.
[1] Except when he made personal attacks on others, in which cases I reported the offending message using the "Report to moderator" button.
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Having been away from the kitchen for several months really, and more recently, on a boat at sea, I have returned to shore and required the references of this site for some recipe information to prepare a guest cooked meal for my current hosts. What a disappointment it is to find the same old in-fighting going on about moderation and 'unruly' language. Refer to earlier threads about language and the site rules. I had hoped this was all sorted last year.
Well I find it a disappointment as well. I you read back through the years (apart from CA) you'll find a lot of the arguments which have nothing to do with curry are started or fueled by George. For my part, and don't forget he said he would resign if CH was made moderator for which he back peddled, he is the main culprit of why this forum will look ridiculous at times to the outsider, not members having a 'playful' dig at kormas or special sauce. Posting a members personal message was a step too far in my opinion for his position regardless off the content. And as for the democratic vote, yes you are right about using the word democratic but then I thought I was a member of a curry forum and not an english forum but nonetheless, it was fairly run with one vote per member.
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You will never win people, Not as long as George has his finger on the delete button. ;D
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You will never win people, Not as long as George has his finger on the delete button. ;D
But we have our fingers on the Post button ;D
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But we have our fingers on the Post button ;D
As I did Gav, Just to have them deleted, Although there where no swear words ;),
So what's the bloody point ;D
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Meow!! ;D
Ouch again. Sverige: The master of quick repartee, and very original as well. Never seen that one before. ??? This response clearly demonstrates your credentials to NOT be involved in an issue as complex as the present one.
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-- in a poll such as Gav's, the people are simply the jury, reporting their findings to the judge (Stu) in public and awaiting his decision.
** Phil.
Now that everybody has had a little rest, are we all prepared to accept the decision, either way and baring in mind that no decision is actually a decision to maintain the status quo.
I am, and this should be the end of this episode, hopefully.
PS I applaud Onions' removal of the poll result banner signature from his profile. Well done.
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-- in a poll such as Gav's, the people are simply the jury, reporting their findings to the judge (Stu) in public and awaiting his decision.
** Phil.
Now that everybody has had a little rest, are we all prepared to accept the decision, either way and baring in mind that no decision is actually a decision to maintain the status quo.
I am, and this should be the end of this episode, hopefully.
PS I applaud Onions' removal of the poll result banner signature from his profile. Well done.
Well, that wasn't patronising..
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Maybe it was, but yes or no naga?
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Well for me, the poll that was removed was in favour by a considerable amount and voted on by posting members that he should resign. I/we can't force him, only admin can do that. As for the end of this episode I can't see it if George continues as he has with previous issues.
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Maybe it was, but yes or no naga?
Maybe it has passed you by, but you seem to be the only member pushing the issue while the rest of us are back to normal business. Let it go and rejoin the normalised community of curry enthusiasts.
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I'm very much in favour of that suggestion naga. I'll just wait and see how it all pans out from here. I know most of your are either off to bed, or already there, but I'm about to once again try to improve my naan. I have a new tawa to season and I'll be going back to revisit H4ppy Chris's video for the umpteenth time.
I wish there was an abridged version, although I think somebody here summarised it in a post on the related thread.
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I'm very much in favour of that suggestion naga. I'll just wait and see how it all pans out from here. I know most of your are either off to bed, or already there, but I'm about to once again try to improve my naan. I have a new tawa to season and I'll be going back to revisit H4ppy Chris's video for the umpteenth time.
I wish there was an abridged version, although I think somebody here summarised it in a post on the related thread.
Well, I wish you well with that. Chris put up some decent info but brevity wasn't his strong point. I think Garp summarised the recipe here, so it might be worth a search for it.
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Abridged version
Does that mean your a bit slow ;)
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I can hear the shouts of "CA is back" already but i can live with that. I am beginning to feel as though I work for HMP as I seem to be on a bit of a lockdown mission at the moment. Those members that chose to participate in this thread and / or in the other related thread have had their say. I feel there is nothing to be gained by the posting of any further remarks. Are there any objections to this and the other thread being locked?
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None from me. All's said that needs to be said. Least said now, soonest mended.
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Fine by me
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Ditto, but people would have to respond to your question which makes it a bit hard for you. I say just do it if you think you should. Your the mod.
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Abridged version
Does that mean your a bit slow ;)
Life is like a box of chocolates. Run Forest Run. ;D
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Livo
Will you shut up
I'm trying to go to sleep
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Your the mod.
NO.
We are the mods. We are the mods. We are we are we are the mods.
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I can hear the shouts of "CA is back" already but i can live with that. I am beginning to feel as though I work for HMP as I seem to be on a bit of a lockdown mission at the moment. Those members that chose to participate in this thread and / or in the other related thread have had their say. I feel there is nothing to be gained by the posting of any further remarks. Are there any objections to this and the other thread being locked?
No objection here, you have my vote.
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Are there any objections to this and the other thread being locked?
I have no objection to any thread being locked (or deleted) where the action is not at the whim of a single - and usually biased - mod (we all have our own interpretation of what's right and wrong after all). So as long as it's done with the agreement of all mods - and there must be more than one and preferably no fewer than three - I don't see thread locking as an inherent evil.
Or we can, as you said, return to the days of CA's style of moderation and let chaos reign.