Curry Recipes Online
Curry Chat => Lets Talk Curry => Topic started by: Chilli Prawn on October 27, 2006, 02:00 PM
-
Ok, I have spoken to Mark, my BIR Chef friend and he likes the idea of doing a video if the proceeds go to charity. I have some video production friends (semi-pro) who also might do the production for free on the same basis. So if you are interested and Admin can find a way of selling this through the site we can go ahead, alternatively there are some charity sites who will market & sell things like this and collect the proceeds. So I have kept my end of the promise (you may even get to see me on screen, and that's worth a few bob ;D), and now it is up to you guys & gals. I am having a meeting with Mark next Tuesday morning so I would like to get a feel if this is a goer or not.
On the humungous question of the BIR taste, we had some long discussions on this and he is very understanding about the issue. Mark is going to do some demos for me prior to the video. We have been talking about this tricky subject and his initial response is it is down to technique/heat, the order in which simple spices and meat or veg are added, but no secret ingredient(s) (except his sauce, which of course you all have now!).
commodum inflictum
CP
De atrum penitus tyrannus (for Darth)
-
Hi CP,
Sounds great CP! :D
However, I do have one or two reservations (not that this should discourage you of course! :P).
Firstly, regarding creating "that BIR taste", I really think we need to put it into words first. I haven't really seen this on this site; particularly reagarding techniques. If we can't put it into words, I personally doubt that a video will really help.
Why do I say this?
Well, secondly, I have a similar-sounding video (i.e. "The Balti Kichen"). Whilst it is very interstesting to see how they actually do things, it does very little to help in creating "that BIR taste". Unfortunately, I found the video very lacking in this regard.
Thirdly, somebody (maybe Stew, as you say) would need to consider how to distribute the video for cash? But I wonder why we should want to, anymore than we should want to charge for written recipes? (although I do accept that charity may be a reasonable cause)
I would also be interested if you could maybe please elaborate on Mark's BIR cooking credentials? (I would be interested to know these?)
Please don't be discouraged though! These are just my (impromptu) thoughts! I'm sure others will readily disagree! 8)
-
Hi CP,
I think the interest would be dependant on whats actually going to be on the dvd and the price you were thinking of? If your mate can show us something that will improve our curry making then great I can see it doing really well but the flip side of that is harsh criticism, have you seen some of the reviews certain books and chefs receive on this forum? Balti Kitchen dvd's anyone :D
I'm not trying to put you of or anything as I would like to see it but remember that a lot of members myself included are curry obsessives that have paid out time and time again and have learnt nothing new that this forum doesn't already offer.
Just out of interest does your chef friend produce curry with the "taste" at he's restaurant?
cK
-
Ok, I have spoken to Mark, my BIR Chef friend...
A BIR chef named Mark? Hmmmmm...presumably from the Markistan region of Bangladesh.
Caveat emptor!
YF
B.T.W don't you find people who quote from dead languages annoying? ::)
-
Stop being such a wet blanket Yellow Fingers..
Im sure you have your own bonfire to piss on :-X
Kind regards Ashes ;)
-
Yep, Him and Woks Up are on aboring/moaning attack again. Nothing better to do I suppose. And, with regards to dead languages Yello Fingers, if you had the ability to translate, you see some dark humour there.
Anyway Yellow Fingers if you had read the various topics I have posted with reference to Mark, AS YOU CONTINUALLY TELL ME AND OTHERS TO DO!, YOU WILL SEE THAT MARK IS A PROFESSIONAL CHEF WITH BRILLIANT CREDENTIALS AND WAS VOTED AS ONE OF THE BEST INDIAN CHEFS ON THE iSLAND. I am not throwing my toys out, I just get pissed off with you because you seem to contribute very little and moan a lot. Yes I have read through most of the threads and you and Woks UP seem to be in the centre of controversy each time. I don't have to justify my credentials or any one else's. But maybe you should explain your credentials and what gives you the right to complain.
CP
-
Hi Cory, CK, Ashes. I value your comments and I agree with them. It will not be easy, but then I am offering this to CRO with no hidden agendas and we can collectively decide if there is something to make out of it for the benefit of all. I am quite prepared to give a beta version for free to certain members so that they can pass a considered opinion and if need be we can change it to suit. I am just posting an opportunity, and before a throw off this mortal coil I would like to contribute something back to this troubled world.
Anyway guys despite my last post, I am not really that sensitive. I have been around a long time and can realise positive from negative; well most times when I am not p***ed and wiring up the house or fiddling with a PC ;D ;D ;D
Just broke my rules and did a takeaway banquet (10 courses) for local visitors. I was quite impressed with little old me as I did the lot from bare bones (no bases) in 90 mins. I couldn't do that as a full time job..... Phew :(
Happy Cooking
CP
For the benefit of some, the two Latin phrases are: 'Opportunity knocks', and 'From the Dark Side' I cant speak a word of Latin, I just used a Web translator for a laugh 8) :o ::)
-
CP youve got the makings of a good idea there, although i suspect that there isnt much Mark could teach us about curry making "BIR styley", after all we have a wealth of info on these very pages.
Its BIR that most of us are interested in, there are tips and techniques that professional chefs use that we could learn from. Thats what im most interested in! If you have a beta version id be interested in giving it my honest opinion. I hope the video shows not only what spices Mark will use, and what order he will add them, and WHY. Technique technique technique :D
Besides whats been said, there are people out there on e-bay who dont know s..t about curry making, but are willing to try, so i hope the video will cater for all, beginner and prof alike.
Regards Ashes
-
Ta
-
I really think we need to put it into words first. I haven't really seen this on this site; particularly reagarding techniques. If we can't put it into words, I personally doubt that a video will really help.
Cory and others
I'm all for this DVD offer. Every little helps and it's a good and generous idea. But I can see your point, Cory. A video site was flagged up here recently, showing some good Indian dishes being made. I tried one and it wasn't bad. But the text version of the same recipe on that web site was the more useful tool. If you know what's meant by 'slice an onion' then you really don't need to see it on screen. In fact, it looked like the video makers worked from the written recipe and used it as their script. They then shot a few seconds of action for each stage.
In summary, I feel that if a written recipe is good, then a video will be a worthwhile icing on the cake. If a written recipe is not very good, a video will raise expectations, but it's unlikely to help improve the end result.
Has anyone tried CP's base yet, please?
Regards
George
-
CP!
- Illegitimi Non Carborundum ;)
-
Hi Cp just come across this post , it is a very good idea matey, but Ck has a valid point as many amongst us have gone through all the DVD's promising enlightenment in our quest.
I would give credit to those who cannot criticise in a positive manner, it really does take exceptional ignorance & low self esteem to then go ahead & post it for all to see ;D.
To think Latin is a dead language points out an individuals poor grasp of our Mother Tongue (thats English ;D), we must set these poor wretches free by by educating them & therefore bringing true enlightenment into their malnourished minds. :D They then in turn become worthy of sacrifice to the Dark lord in his Hellish Realm....Ahem :o
-
Thanks Mate, yes CK et al are right. So what we may do is just make up a home video type thing as a trial and send it to you guys for judgement. I might even get Mark to dress up in a Vader suit to give it some authenticity. ;D
I will ask Jengo to do some contracts for me! 8)
CP
-
;D ;D ;D
-
Beware; Duct tape is like 'The Force.' It has a light side and a dark side, and it holds the universe together. ;D
-
hi cp
i think it is very good idea. i enjoyed the balti kitchen dvd but felt it lacked something .....the taste ;) it is about time someone out there gave the people want they want and marketed well it would spread joy and happiness throughout the land. i wasted 7.99 plus p&p on the curry magic dvd and imho it is crap it is supposed to be magic i wish it was........ ;) then maybe i would have something of pc's actually worth the media it is written on(again this is my opinion).
anyway i would love to review a beta if 1 going :D
btw my local has been taken over by new management ( have been for a couple of months) they have been stars lately i ran out of chillies and they were more than happy to oblige on friday last the missus forgot the coriander (yes she is sacked now ;)) so last night i popped to the corner shop no coriander it was 1745 getting very dark and too far to tesco so pooped down to Rajver( old revised recipe posted) the door was locked so stuck my head round the side ouf the building because i heard voices the side kitchen door was open so i called out hello a head popped out i explained my situation and name dropped the old chefs name and he reached in to the frigde pulled out a bunch of .....coriander :) so now i have met the new manager and the chef so who knows......... 8) i said the other day we were having takeaway on thursday had our usual set meal for 1, chicken tikka starter :Pchicken vindaloo :Pbombay aloo :P pilau rice :P and an extra onions bhajis :P oh and plain naan ( bhajis and chicken tikka come with salad and mint sauce) all for ?15 delivered to our door and it was superb :P
i did notice that in there window a poster "nominated for 2006 customer satisfaction awards" .....gosh i'm so lucky ;) ;) ;) ;D
anyway cp go go go ;) will look forward to hearing about your progress ;)
regards
gary
-
Thanks Gary. I am just as apprehensive as everyone else, as my methods etc., are different in some ways from a BIR, and yes I have tons of books and hand written recipes from cooks friends et al; I never bothered with videos. As I said I have a meeting with Mark on Tuesday so we shal see what we can come up with. I think that because I have come to understand the CRO mission and its expectations I can be more focused on what it takes to make a real BIR curry. BUT..... and there is always one of these, as Ashes and others have said, it will depend on the base used (in this case it will be Mark's UCB), the freshness and origin of the spices, and the capability of the cooker! Mine is only a domestic range cooker mit Wok burner. As far as UCB is concerned, has anyone tried it yet?
CP
-
CP how about you invite some friends around to taste the finished product? This could also be recorded for the film.. bit like Jamie Oliver does ;D
Im sure the video will be good, after all we haven't seen many professional chefs cook on film and its always good to see how something that is done properly!
Glad to see someone who has the motivation to do something positive, I understand why you run your own business and not just a home cook :)
Regards Ashes
-
I own the "Balti" and "Curry Magic" videos, and the problem, is the authors are unaware home (restauant style) curries are missing a flavour.
Therefore, there is no attempt, to get round this problem.
If it wasn't for this "problem", this site wouldn't excist.
Most cr0 members, have failed to get results by all other means.
Those means being:- The Curry Secret, Pat Chapmans books and Video, Madhur Jaffrey, Balti Kitchen video/dvd, 100 best Baltis, Authentic Balti Curry, Korma Sutra restaurant book.
I have spent a small fortune.
This site contains more valid information, than anything I bought.
-
I would be happy to take a punt on the video. Even if it doesn't deliver the goods, the money goes to a charity so, unless you begrudge that, I can't see how you can loose.
A8
-
Yep there is a load of crap out there. But what we shall do is to try and record two real curry chefs (Mark and me) at our business of making curries, e.g. a day in the life of, or fly on the wall approach (oops cant have flies in kitchens). It will be done in our kitchen which is not a million miles from the standard home kitchen. BUT... as I always say, it is down to techniques in the end, and this is what differentiates chefs between very good, passsable, and crap. It is for charity and it will be done in the best we can.
Phew! I have taken a lot here!
CP
-
Go for it CP. I'll put ?20 to charity and that's the easy bit. You've got all the hard work.
Looking forward to it.
-
I'm prepared to contribute to charity also my good friend :)
-
Certainly sounds like a great idea, but can I suggest it is made in a real home kitchen. I know you say yours is not far from a home kitchen so maybe that'll be fine. I don't have a wok burner or anything like it so if you can show how to do it in home cooking quantities and on a bog standard kitchen stove that'd be great.
Maybe post a single recipe as a video so people can gauge whether it's useful or not.
Richard
-
Thanks Rich, will bear that in mind. My kitchen cooker has so called Wok ring (some joke), so you will be OK. As far as quantities are concerned I think it will be difficult to do this as far as the base is concerned, so I will have to make a modded recipe/video as an appendix. Early days yet as I am trying to get some charities inetrested but they are very busy with the Christmas stuff.
CP
-
Maybe we could set up a trust fund for the chefs given charity? - If we add quite a few members as trutees then we could guarantee the result.
I remember getting a BIR in to serve in a large company HQ restaurant. This was done for the bangladeshi tsunami relief fund - It was a huge success with over 1K raised for the cause.
KP(V)
-
Hey guys, I want to see this video where and when will it be available
Regards David