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Beginners Guide => Trainee Chefs / Beginners Questions => Topic started by: goncalo on April 01, 2013, 07:12 PM
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I should start by saying I don't really like lentils or chick-peas, however, a great friend of mine loves chana aloo and I offered to try and make it. I have read a few tips here and there, so far it comes down to:
- soak chana dhal in water overnight before using
- pre-cook using the standard method: turmeric + salt, boil and simmer for 30mins
I have not seen any BIR recipes for channa aloo so far, so I'm sort of wondering what things would you expect a BIR chef to add to make it less bland? I suppose it's not just about finishing the cooking of the dhal and aloo using a few ladles of base?
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I've made something like this before but I don't have any set recipe for it, I think I just made it up on the fly as another experimental dish!
I would approach it in the same way as any other BIR style dish, but you'll probably have to experiment with it until you get it right to your taste and/or what you or your friend can remember it tasting like in a restaurant.
I would cook the lentils as you've described but I'd probably also part precook the potatoes in turmeric and a little salt too.
Then you can assemble the dish as you would any other BIR style dish. Heat the oil, pinch of asafoetida, fry for 10 seconds or so, tsp of g/g paste, fry till golden, fry spices, probably mix powder, chilli powder, salt, pinch or so of Garam, ladle of base reduced, perhaps another ladle of base, pinch of fenugreek leaves, perhaps a tsp of tamarind concentrate if you have any, in go potatoes, reduce mixture to coat, perhaps some chopped green chilli's and mix in your lentils. Simmer till potatoes are done, add chopped coriander.
You could make it more complex by adding a tempering to your lentils before you add them. In a tablespoon of oil, fry some coriander seeds, cumin seeds, fenugreek seeds, couple of whole red chilli's and when fragrant, set aside to cool. Empty into a pestle and mortar and grind to a paste, add and stir this into your lentils before adding to your main dish.
Experiment and have fun!
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I have never seen this dish but I would probably resort to using a tin of chick peas drained of course, not having to worry about soaking or cooking. Certainly the chana masala I order, the chana does not look pre-cooked in spices in any way.
All you'd have to worry about then is what type of curry sauce you want to make then add pre-cooked potato and the drained chana. I imagine either a bhuna or basic curry would do.
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I would use the widely available tins of chick peas rather than faff around with the raw pulse. The method is pretty much how many of the side dishes are prepared with the normal suspects as Spiceyokooko has mentioned. As for the aloo part, why not pre-cook using the CBM method which i have already mentioned to you.
Here's how the Viceroy Brasserie cook theirs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=finEvrxoigE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=finEvrxoigE)
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Hi goncalo!
Don't know about the BIR chef, but I cook dals almost daily for myself. Authentic Chole should contain some sour notes, so you could use amchoor, tamarind, lime juice or even a pinch of Chaat masala. Preferable, some pomegranate seeds. This will also add the colour. People boil their dal with approx. 2 bags of black tea, if they don't have them, but still want to achieve that colour. Some add Sodium bicarbonate. One easy recipe for a homemade "Chana Masala"-spice mix:
2 tbsp. coriander seeds, 1 tsp. cumin seeds, 1/2 tsp. black cardamom seeds, 5 cloves, 1 cinnamon stick, 4 dried red chilis, 8 black peppercorns
Hope that helps, somehow ,)
Greetings!
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Chole should contain some sour notes, so you could use amchoor, tamarind, lime juice or even a pinch of Chaat masala.
I agree, it needs a souring agent somewhere in there, I like tamarind but as you say any of the others would work equally well.
Good advice Chonk :)
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Hi goncalo!
Don't know about the BIR chef, but I cook dals almost daily for myself. Authentic Chole should contain some sour notes, so you could use amchoor, tamarind, lime juice or even a pinch of Chaat masala.
Greetings!
Agreed! I used to buy Dal (split yellow) a lot from Deans in South Wimbledon, and the Tamarind was obvious in that. I loved it with a stack of chapatis. ;D
It was the only place i knew that was guaranteed to be thick. Cant stand runny dal.
Spent many nights eating that and playing carrom. ;D
The Channa was good too! Trying to think back for a thought taste and there was a more noticable garlic tarka in the chickpeas than the dal. And methi too.
Not sure whether you mean chick peas or split gram Goncalo, I assume the latter?
Cheers, Frank. :)
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Hi goncalo!
Don't know about the BIR chef, but I cook dals almost daily for myself. Authentic Chole should contain some sour notes, so you could use amchoor, tamarind, lime juice or even a pinch of Chaat masala.
Greetings!
Agreed! I used to buy Dal (split yellow) a lot from Deans in South Wimbledon, and the Tamarind was obvious in that. I loved it with a stack of chapatis. ;D
It was the only place i knew that was guaranteed to be thick. Cant stand runny dal.
Spent many nights eating that and playing carrom. ;D
The Channa was good too! Trying to think back for a thought taste and there was a more noticable garlic tarka in the chickpeas than the dal. And methi too.
Not sure whether you mean chick peas or split gram Goncalo, I assume the latter?
Cheers, Frank. :)
Thanks, they are split-gram. I started the wrong way around by buying a bag of channa dall from heera without researching first, i.e: (http://www.mattas.co.uk/sites/default/files/imagecache/product_full/images/products/heera-chana-dall-2kg.jpg)
Thanks for the excellent tips so far. What exact reason would you advice me to go for a tin of chickpeas instead of soaking these ones? :)
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Its because chickpeas as well as split yellow (lentils) are both called chana/channa. ::)
Confusing eh. ;D
I never really thought about it before, but its possible it could be in the spelling. (although as you know from menus and different regions, the spellings cant always be relied upon.)
Chana = dal (split pea)
Channa = chickpeas.
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soak for 8 hours or overnight - you will have great results.
As mentioned by spiceyokooko to cook a dish - you will not go too far wrong
best, Rich
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Dal means the dish, made of lentils, legumes or beans (split or whole), or refers to any split variety of those. They are both called 'Chan(n)a', because they are both chickpeas ;D Indian chickpeas differ from the european ones, so they have a slightly different look. (especially being hulled and split)
Whole lentils, legumes or beans are called "sabut" in India.
Don't doubt that some places translate "Chana dal" as "yellow split lentils", but that should be "Masoor dal" (whole ones are green or brown) (:
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I've always dismissed them as lentils too because theyre sold as dal, but you're correct and it sounds like another confusion with wording and packaging. :P Nobody would ever refer to them as chickpeas though. (split peas maybe)
Talking of peas Chonk, please could you tell me what the name of the peas were that i ate in Mysore? ;D
They were fresh and very seasonal, but maybe grown from a tree? Looking similar to acacia leaves.
Dont think they were from the same family, but they tasted like fresh peas. Everyone was eating strings of them, very popular.
I've tried searching online but cant find a thing. :-\
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Most dals are beans or peas*, but are called, for unknown reasons, lentils ;D
Haha, wish I could! (: They look similiar to the leaves, so you're talking about a pea with pod and everything? The seeds do remind me of whole urad, though. Also called "black lentils". (here again - no real lentil, haha)
Mysore sounds very nice, btw (:
* legumes
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I love Mysore, great place. :)
Found them.
I think they were a type of fresh chickpea. ;D
(http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/pics/35108a3a4d4b3b8b30fea968b7e29e87.JPG)
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Looks pretty exotic ;D
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Absolutely delicious!! Everyone on the streets was eating them! ;D
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On the other hand Goncalo, your friend might've meant channa(chickpeas) aloo, and not chana dal(split gram) aloo. :P ;D
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On the other hand Goncalo, your friend might've meant channa(chickpeas) aloo, and not chana dal(split gram) aloo. :P ;D
that is a good observation, although he didn't go into details, he did mention chick peas. Seeing as I generally don't eat lentils or chickpeas, I'm wondering how different are they? could I easily slip one for the other without a substantial impact?
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could I easily slip one for the other without a substantial impact?
I'd say they were pretty much interchangeable. It would be the texture that you'll notice the difference more than variety or flavour. But as you have split gram anyway, they should taste similar to full size chickpeas.
:)
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Thank you DP. Off it goes.
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Popped into a few shops over the weekend on a hunt for patthar ke phool, no joy. :(
Picked up a few other items though. :)
Green Chana ;D After the talk about these, i was very happy to see them in the shops. Obviously not as sweet as I ate in India which were freshly picked, but not bad though.
(http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/pics/08748a751eb6c38793a72a6d12e4d08c.jpg)(http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/pics/1e645f5a4a98f1f829fce215cbe07983.jpg)
TRS Whole Red Extra Hot Chillies 400g (reduced to 99p because they were out of date) ;)
Closer in size(no bigger than 1 inch) to proper birds eye chillies.
And i thought i would try some more Naga products. 8) (again, very cheap and out of date)
(http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/pics/469006af7f235372e645c028727bc8cb.jpg)(http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/pics/19030dcd903e21d88e85eb7becf9a346.jpg)
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Green Chana ;D After the talk about these, i was very happy to see them in the shops. Obviously not as sweet as I ate in India which were freshly picked, but not bad though.
I think it's a small miracle that we can get products like this at all. Whereabouts did you procure them from?
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Green Chana ;D After the talk about these, i was very happy to see them in the shops. Obviously not as sweet as I ate in India which were freshly picked, but not bad though.
I think it's a small miracle that we can get products like this at all. Whereabouts did you procure them from?
Up in Glasgow SS. ;) Was told in the first shop that somebody had just been in and bought 6 bags! ;D
I didnt buy mine in that shop though as i was umming and arring because i knew they wouldn't be as fresh, but succumbed by the 8th or 9th shop. :P
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Up in Glasgow SS.
D'oh! They might as well be in India then for all the chance I'll have of ever getting up there. In fact I'd probably understand the locals better as well!. ;D
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green chana? they look like peas to me -- how different are they, taste wise? :)