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The discussion centers around the preparation of onions for curry bases, specifically whether to fry, boil, or use a combination of both methods. Participants share their experiences, with some advocating for frying onions at low heat to enhance sweetness, while others suggest boiling them to achieve a different flavor profile. The consensus appears to be that frying onions at low heat can make them sweeter, but opinions vary on the effectiveness of boiling in achieving sweetness, with some doubting its impact. Overall, there is no definitive conclusion on the best method, as preferences differ among the contributors.

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Offline Cory Ander

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"To Fry or Not to Fry?"; This is the Question!
« on: August 22, 2006, 12:53 PM »
Dear all,

Looking through the various curry bases here, it is obvious that onions are the primary and common ingredient to all of them. 

However, there is one particularly significant difference in the way in which the curry basis are prepared; whether the onions are fried, boiled, or a combination of the two? 

I reckon one of the most difficult things to replicate at home is the sweetness of BIR curries.  I'm sure that this largely due to the way in which the onions are prepared.  It seems to me that poorly cooked onions are rather bitter and that only prolonged cooking times impart the necessary sweetness?

I would be very interested in people's opinions, therefore, on whether it is best to fry the onions, or to boil them, or to both fry then boil them, and why?

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Re: To Fry or Not to Fry; This is the Question?
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2006, 09:23 PM »
Cory Ander,

I boil the onions with a few slices of potato, turmeric and the magic ingredient - 1/2 Teaspoon of Bicarbonate of Soda which breaks down the onions superfast and takes away any acidity.  You just try it and it cuts a 2 hour boil down to 30 mins.

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Re: To Fry or Not to Fry; This is the Question?
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2006, 10:41 PM »
I was always led to believe the longer you fried onions the sweeter they got. The thing I always have trouble with is when do onions become golden brown??......mike
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Re: To Fry or Not to Fry; This is the Question?
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2006, 09:44 AM »
i believe the best is fry first or sweat the onions as u dont want to brown them then boil in the water with the other stuff and simmer for 1 hour.
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Re: To Fry or Not to Fry; This is the Question?
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2006, 03:52 PM »
Add a little salt to the onions as well when frying , as this will help to draw some of the moisture out .
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Re: To Fry or Not to Fry; This is the Question?
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2006, 06:30 PM »
The way I see it is that BIR curries incorporate two separate shots of onion/garlic/ginger with each shot being cooked in a different way. It is the combination of the two distinct cooking methods which makes the final curries tasty.

One shot is the (almost) fresh onions/garlic/ginger which are stir-fried at high heat around the start of each final curry. This element presumably goes brown.

The other shot is the base sauce, being primarily boiled.

So final onions = boiled onions + fried onions

I'm not sure this is correct but it's the way I see it.

Therefore if you brown the onions in the base sauce, you miss out on the flavour of simple, long-boiled onions.

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Re: To Fry or Not to Fry; This is the Question?
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2006, 06:14 PM »
Hi george,

The onions I have seen added in the final dish have always been pre-fried. Frying onions at maximum heat makes them bitter (alledgedly)

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Re: To Fry or Not to Fry; This is the Question?
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2006, 07:55 PM »
Quote from: Mark J on August 24, 2006, 06:14 PM

The onions I have seen added in the final dish have always been pre-fried. Frying onions at maximum heat makes them bitter (alledgedly)



Very true Mark , thats why when saut?ing onions, always use low or medium heat. The bitterness is quite pronounced on a high heat .
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Re: To Fry or Not to Fry; This is the Question?
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2006, 03:30 PM »
read this old post, it might answer some of your questions on onions and sweetness.

https://curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=176.0

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Re: To Fry or Not to Fry; This is the Question?
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2006, 05:16 AM »
Thanks for the link Ashes.

I read all 9 pages of the post (twice!), but there doesn't appear to be anything about boiling or frying the onions in the curry base, or its effect on the sweetness of the onions?  Am I missing something?  Or did you mean to provide a link to a different post?
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