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Offline Peripatetic Phil

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Chicken Madras 2012
« on: September 13, 2012, 11:25 PM »
Images to accompany the "Chicken Madras, posted at Cory Ander's request" thread.
Also available at higher resolution and in slideshow format on Picasaweb.


~~ Chicken Madras ~~


~~ Microwave Pulao Rice ~~



~~ Red Onion & Tomato Salad ~~


~~ The served meal (lime pickle at 10:00) ~~


~~ Clausthaler Extra Herb (0,5% alcohol by volume) ~~
« Last Edit: September 14, 2012, 08:34 AM by Phil [Chaa006] »

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Re: Chicken Madras 2012
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2012, 12:30 AM »
Phil - that really does look like an excellent madras!

Couple of questions though - first why the ground fenugreek seeds? What does this add? Also why so many varieties of chili powder? Deggi, Kashmiri and bassar...

Thanks and great work!

Josh

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Re: Chicken Madras 2012
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2012, 12:53 AM »
Phil - that really does look like an excellent madras!  Couple of questions though - first why the ground fenugreek seeds? What does this add? Also why so many varieties of chili powder? Deggi, Kashmiri and bassar...  Thanks and great work!  Josh

Thank /you/, Josh, for your kind words.  And some answers to your questions.

1) In fact, the dish you see has neither cumin nor fenugreek.  When I cooked it last time, at CA's request, I reported that with just the Bassar, curry powder and mirch alone the dish was very edible.  I reported this on the basis of one piece of chicken and one spoonful of sauce which I tried while checking the recipe for publication and before adding the cumin and fenugreek.  When I cooked it again this evening for the photographs, I decided to deliberately omit those ingredients and eat the whole meal with just the four basic spices/spice mixes.  And it was indeed very fine.  But in my normal Madras, which really formed the basis of the report, I do indeed add ground fenugreek seeds (usually equal to 50% of the cumin content), and the only reason I can offer for so doing is because I like the flavour.

2) The chillies.  Well, first of all Bassar curry masala is far more than just ground chillies : it has about ten ingredients, including mustard oil, so although the chilli content is high it can't be thought of as just ground chillies.  And the Deggi & Kashmiri mirch each offer something different : Kashmiri -- beautiful deep red; Deggi -- paler but more heat.  I find 50:50 is fine, I would not willingly omit the Kashmiri (because I love the colour so), but when cooking for my wife I can happily omit the Deggi and replace it by more Kashmiri.

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Re: Chicken Madras 2012
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2012, 01:08 AM »
Thanks Phil. I may try a small amount of fenugreek powder next time I make a Madras.

Just a note on your use Of chat masala. The BIR I frequented the most while I lived in the UK (which was superb), always used a sprinkle of chat masala on the surface of their Madras before serving. I always thought it was a nice touch.

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Re: Chicken Madras 2012
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2012, 05:56 AM »
What a lovely looking dish Phil !!

That 1st picture reminds me of the first few BIR curries I ate ( early 80's ) ... I love the different shapes and almost 'rustic-ness' of the chicken pieces .... makes my diced breast look a little dull . The sauce is a great colour and has a nice sheen to it .CA recommended to me to add 0.25 tsp of fenugreek powder to a vindaloo and although you omitted it on this occasion I agree with you ... it does add something. I like the flavour too !.

Well done again ... a nice bit of porn for the weekend !!   :)

My next dish to try ........

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Re: Chicken Madras 2012
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2012, 08:19 AM »
Looking fantasttic. I'm hungry now!

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Re: Chicken Madras 2012
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2012, 08:40 AM »
1st class Phil.

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Re: Chicken Madras 2012
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2012, 10:28 AM »
Phil,

Lovely looking food there. That Madras sauce looks absolutely superb! with nice juicy looking chicken pieces too.

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Re: Chicken Madras 2012
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2012, 11:41 AM »
Certainly looks the part Phil. I wouldn't be grumbling if I were served that in a restaurant.

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Re: Chicken Madras 2012
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2012, 11:59 AM »
Just following up on my earlier response to Josh Allen's question in re methi powder/ground fenugreek seeds :

Couple of questions though - first why the ground fenugreek seeds? What does this add?

I realised after sleeping on it that my original answer was over-simplistic.  It is not /just/ that I like the flavour of methi powder in a curry; what is far more important (IMHO, glossed previously) is that its use was one of my first real breakthroughs.  I added methi powder, either to Kris Dhillon's Chicken Madras recipe or to one of my early variants thereof, and I knew immediately I smelled and tasted it that this was an aroma and a flavour that I associate with BIR cuisine.  And this would also explain why Mr & Mrs Athwal and their sons ("Crowhurst & Tompsett", Marden) neither stocked it nor were even unaware of its existence; they, of course, cook traditional Indian food, not BIR food.  It would be interesting to know whether BIRs add ground methi explicitly, or whether it is a major ingredient of commercial catering curry powders for the BIR trade, or whether there is some other reason for my associating its smell and flavour with BIR cuisine.

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